Also, to be clear. I'm of the opinion that the advanced preferences should go away entirely. So I do have opinions of my own on the matter, I just don't think that lots of effort should be put in without the two points I talked about here being addressed.
Chris On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Christopher Forsythe <ch...@growl.info>wrote: > My concern is 2 fold: > > 1) If you are just blindly removing preferences while instead not trying to > make Adium smarter about how it handles things, then that's not very > beneficial. My favorite example is as follows: > > The is a way in Adium preferences so that tabs will be grouped together in > windows by the groups in the contact list. If Adium instead detected in the > background that users were grouping by the groups in the contact list, then > it could silently start performing this behavior. If a user then starts > pulling tabs out differently, disable the behavior. > > 2) You have no statistics as to what users enable/disable/fiddle with. This > is all based on opinions/conjecture. There is already infrastructure in > place that would help to collect at least some of this sort of information. > > My problem here is that if only .001 percent of adium users configure more > than just new xtras to use and accounts, then this seems like a lot of work > for very little gain to me. > > Chris > > > On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Patrick Steinhardt > <steinhard...@me.com>wrote: > >> Hey guys, >> >> It has often been found that Adium's UI is overwhelming and potentially >> confusing. Recently, we discussed a reduction of preferences and menu items >> in #adium-devl and set up a Wiki page to allow for a wider discussion: >> http://trac.adium.im/wiki/PreferenceReduction2011. >> >> >> - File -> Page Setup >> This menu item includes needles clutter as the same feature can be >> accessed by the "Print"-item. One click on "Details" uncovers the page setup >> there. >> >> - File -> Import Fire Accounts and Logs >> This messenger has not been actively developed for five years now. To >> quote Evan: "Anyone still using Fire at this point is unlikely to ever >> switch." >> >> - General Preferences -> Send messages with >> Most users (including some of the devs) won't be able to even distinguish >> Enter and Return thus rendering this option useless. Current Apple keyboards >> often don't even have a return key. Users are still able to enter line >> breaks using Alt+Enter keys. >> >> - Advanced Preferences -> Messages -> Time stamp format >> The format can be customized in System Preferences.app. Apparently, some >> message styles do not even respect this setting anyway so this setting has >> potential for confusion. >> >> - Advanced Preferences -> Confirmations >> We want to replace the entire pane with a checkbox-setup: every warning >> that pops up will have a checkbox "Don't show again". To restore all >> warnings, there will be a new button "Reset all warnings" which will result >> in warnings popping up again. >> >> >> Please voice your concerns about these removals. >> >> Regards, >> Patrick >> >> >