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Matthew

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Oskar Krawczyk <oskar.krawc...@gmail.com>wrote:

> No. I just joined the ML yesterday with a very specific idea for the UI in
> mind.
>
> Best,
> Oskar
>
> On May 3, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Christopher Forsythe <ch...@growl.info> wrote:
>
> There was a large conversation about a whole redesign that was started by
> George Lambrou. Have you looked at that at all?
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 4:21 AM, Daniel Alexander Guzman <ani...@uga.edu>wrote:
>
>>  Overall, I like the direction you've taken with the UI. I'm not a *huge* fan
>> of Messages, which it seems you've gone to a certain extent emulating, but
>> the simplicity definitely does appeal to me. I especially like the removal
>> of a lot of the icon clutter, one of my few annoyances with Adium. However,
>> the menubar contacts are a bit iffy for me; I very, very rarely use the
>> menubar for anything more than display. The only app I use regularly
>> resident in it, Mint Quickview, is hardly a favorite of mine for that exact
>> reason. Perhaps as an option, for those who choose to use it, but I
>> definitely prefer a regular, dedicated window.
>>
>>  Moreover, the sidebar with current conversations is nice, but I think
>> it could be curious to go the route of Google Talk:
>>
>>  https://www.dropbox.com/s/z5w4yczdz9h21v0/2013-05-03-04.30.48.png
>>
>>  Rather than a separate list of conversations, it could integrate the
>> buddy list and conversations, by moving up and differentiating contacts who
>> are currently engaged in conversations with you. This works well and saves
>> space.
>>
>>  The active input is especially curious, and I wonder how useful it'll
>> be. I often use a lot of keyboard-driven interfaces (I use Spotlight to
>> launch just about everything), but I've never really thought about it for
>> my instant messenger. I figure if it's done well, though, I'd use the hell
>> out of it.
>>
>>  Overall, I really do like the more simple and clean direction you took.
>> The entire chat 'bubble' style isn't exactly my favorite, so I figure it'd
>> be nice (and likely not incredibly hard) to retain the traditional
>> configurability of the chat view. Currently, I've got it with something
>> clean and simple like so:
>>
>>  http://cl.ly/image/1o1u3q2l0c41
>>
>>  Nothing incredibly fancy, but just a preference. I've never been a fan
>> of bubbles.
>>
>>  Overall, though, I love the direction. If this ever does come together
>> into something, I'd love to give it a shot.
>>
>>  On May 2, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Oskar Krawczyk <oskar.krawc...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Folks,
>>
>>  Just a quick introduction, my name's Oskar, I'm a UI/UX
>> designer/developer.
>>
>>  Some of you might already know me by the quick... "chat" I had with
>> Colin over twitter, yesterday :-)
>>
>>  You're all probably busy people so I'll get the the point.
>>
>>  In February, I tweeted about how the messenger market for mac is
>> lacking, mentioning Adium in the process. Robert Vehse replied saying that
>> if I have a suggestion I should create something, so I teamed up with a
>> great UI designer and friend of mine (Dawid), and started working on a
>> completely rethought frontend for Adium.
>>
>>  There were a few private mails between Robert and me just in order to
>> have a more presentable version of our proposal, but the word got out (on
>> Hacker News), so we need to present what we've came up with now.
>>
>>  The initial blog post about the Adium Case Study
>> http://nouincolor.com/blog/adium-reborn/ (click on the screen for a full
>> presentation - click to change the slide).
>>
>>  Most of the screens from the presentation are self-explanatory. One
>> thing that might need some introduction is the Active Input, this is
>> basically something like Fantastical has – an intelligent input that
>> figures out the stuff you’re trying to do, like:
>>
>>    - *chat* Robert
>>    - *chat* Robert *and* Luke
>>    - *message* Robert
>>    - *yesterdays* *chat* with Robert
>>    - Robert *history* from *yesterday*
>>    - *status* away
>>    - *add* oskar.krawc...@gmail.com *to* Friends
>>    - …
>>
>> As I've mentioned before, this UI is not as polished as I'd like it to
>> be. Plus, if you guys would be interested in this proposal, Dawid and
>> myself, we'd spend more time in refining and getting all of the screens
>> ready.
>>
>>  I've been using Adium for years (remember 
>> this<http://www.adiumxtras.com/index.php?a=xtras&xtra_id=3655>
>>  or this <http://www.adiumxtras.com/index.php?a=xtras&xtra_id=6218>), as
>> much as I like it, I'd love if this project could take a bolder move, and
>> adopt a minimalistic UI as we've created - this could potentially open the
>> doors to a completely new user-base.
>>
>>  If you folks are not planning on taking Adium in a slightly different
>> direction, no hard feelings, we've tried, and we're happy :-)
>>
>>  Best Regards,
>> Oskar
>>
>>
>>
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