> On Dec 11, 2019, at 8:29 AM, Robert Vehse <robertve...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks, and welcome, Asher. :-)

Thanks!

> I'm excited to see someone willing to work on Adium!

Evan has done so much wonderful work, I’m happy to have the opportunity to make 
some contributions to continue the App’s already rather amazing longevity. 

> 
> I'd very much like to participate. Even in recent years with little to zero 
> development activity, I've thought about Adium a lot and I've been working on 
> a proposal on how to move forward once we have a release out with the 
> Catalina auto-scrolling fix. I'd be happy to talk about it here soon.

Great! It sounds like you’ve been doing a great deal on the non-code side, 
which is very much appreciated. I’m hoping that as we get the code side back in 
good shape we will be able to breath some life back into the app, and all of 
the non-code details are incredibly important in that regard. 
> 
> I'd also like to offer guidance to Asher (or any other new contributor). Even 
> though I cannot read or write code, I think I am quite familiar with many, 
> many things relating to the Adium Project that are important to know, for 
> example what the different development branches contain and what state they 
> are in.

I welcome any input or guidance. 

> Speaking of branches: Asher started development on Adium's Github account. 
> While it's great to see him being eager to get to work, I too think it would 
> have been good to get feedback for a move to Github here – even with the lack 
> of activity on this very list. It's just quite a fundamental change. With its 
> popularity Github lowers the barrier not just for Asher but also other 
> potential contributors which is obviously a good thing. But I wonder whether 
> are other questions to consider: Will it make updating libpurple harder? What 
> happens to commit history?
> 

Commit history has been 100% imported and all but I think 5 of the previous 
contributors have been mapped to corresponding GitHub accounts. The remaining 
few were difficult to isolate from other individuals with the same name. 

Literally no one uses hg. I know of no projects other than Pidgin and its kin. 
Not only does everyone use git, but GitHub provides amazing tools and 
networking on top of git’s features. In particular, the visual branch 
comparison and merge tools are extremely convenient and allowed me to make 
quick work of a number of old branches that had nothing in them. A few branches 
remain with traces of ancient work that is probably irrelevant, but which I 
have not pruned until we can fully determine that to be the case. 

I don’t know of any reason that projects that Adium utilizes (such as 
libpurple) would have any repository based relationship. If you see a reason, 
please enlighten me. Not intended to be combative, I just haven’t yet conceived 
of a reason. 

I haven’t touched the “Adium2" hg mirror that you set up, as I figured that 
would require discussion before modifying. 

The simple fact is that I can visualize what’s going on much better in git, and 
insofar as I’m the only one apparently working on code (and working on a 
general overhaul of the code), that is extremely important. The arguments that 
you provide regarding other people’s ability to participate are also not minor. 

Asher

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