Ray,

We are quite reluctant to have patches in EDK II for a large amount of widely 
adopted firmwares. Patches eventually break and require maintenance cost, and 
currently we are trying to get rid of them all. We believe that EDK II Shell is 
supposed to work on real world platforms and not only the ones that 
theoretically support the specification. It is always hard to adopt changes 
based on third-party bugs, and we very well understand your concern, yet it is 
something we have to do to stay beneficial to the end user.

Best wishes,
Vitaly

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 05:53, Ni, Ray <ray...@intel.com> wrote:

> Vitaly,
>
> I still have concern to modify the EDKII code to workaround a firmware bug.
>
> Can you just change in your local version?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray
>
> From: devel@edk2.groups.io <devel@edk2.groups.io>  On Behalf Of Vitaly 
> Cheptsov via Groups.Io
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 4:47 AM
> To: Laszlo Ersek <ler...@redhat.com>; devel@edk2.groups.io; Ni, Ray 
> <ray...@intel.com>; Gao, Zhichao <zhichao....@intel.com>
> Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/1] ShellPkg: Do not connect handles 
> without device paths
>
> Thanks all for your input,
>
> These explanations seem sufficient to us that it is not a good idea to change 
> the behaviour for everyone. Even so, we still need this to be configurable in 
> some way, as having to patch EDK II is impracticable.
>
> We believe there are three possible routes to approach this problem:
>
> -  Introduce a separate ControllerConnectionLib library for this function. 
> While it is small, we found several places in our code that need to call it 
> beyond UEFI Shell. This way different implementations could be used depending 
> on the chosen library.
> -  Introduce a ConnectRequiresDevicePath PCD, which will choose the preferred 
> logic.
> -  Introduce a -dp Shell argument for affected commands the way Lazslo 
> suggested.
>
> We believe either route or a combination of multiple routes have their own 
> benefits, and would suggest either going with 1+2 or with 3. Any approach is 
> fine for us.
>
> We will submit V2 of the patch after hearing the opinions.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Vitaly
>
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 20:55, Laszlo Ersek <ler...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> On 01/13/20 12:56, Ni, Ray wrote:
>>> We shouldn't assume that a DriverBindingStart() can only start on a handle 
>>> with device path installed. DevicePath protocol is just a special protocol.
>>> It's possible that a bus driver starts on a host controller handle and 
>>> creates multiple children, each with only a Specific_IO protocol installed.
>>> Certain device driver can start on the children handle and open the 
>>> Specific_IO protocol BY_DRIVER.
>>> I am not sure if certain today's network drivers may work like this. It's 
>>> allowed per UEFI spec.
>>
>> I agree.
>>
>> Under "10.2 EFI Device Path Protocol", the spec says, "If the handle
>> does not logically map to a physical device, the handle may not
>> necessarily support the device path protocol."
>>
>> I think gBS->ConnectController() and
>> EFI_DRIVER_BINDING_PROTOCOL.Supported() should work on such handles.
>>
>> If we'd like to work around related issues in drivers, then I'd suggest
>> new command line options for the "load", "connect", "reconnect" shell
>> commands (maybe more), for filtering out handles that do not carry
>> device paths. Such command line options could be added as an extension,
>> IIUC, such as "-_option". I.e., I believe it's not necessary to start
>> with UEFI Shell Spec updates.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Laszlo
>
> 
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