[AMD Official Use Only - General]

Please see my answers inline.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: disc...@edk2.groups.io <disc...@edk2.groups.io> On Behalf Of
> Konstantin Aladyshev via groups.io
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 1:54 AM
> To: Chang, Abner <abner.ch...@amd.com>
> Cc: disc...@edk2.groups.io; devel@edk2.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [edk2-discuss] PLDM messages via MCTP over KCS
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>
> Thanks for the answer!
>
> I was a little bit confused about the part, that in the same package I
> actually need to provide different library implementations for the
> same 'ManageabilityTransportLib', thanks for the clarification!
> I think your DSC example should go into the package documentation.
Yes, this is a good idea.  I will update it.

>
> As for me, I'm working with the OpenBMC distribution
> (https://github.com/openbmc/openbmc) and my goal is to transfer data
> from the BIOS to the BMC via MCTP/PLDM.
> Currently there is no solution for the MCTP over KCS binding in Linux,
> so I need to add this support:
> - either to the MCTP userspace library
> (https://github.com/openbmc/libmctp) [old OpenBMC way, but probably
> easier]
> - or to the MCTP kernel binding
> (https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/drivers/net/mctp)
> [modern mctp Linux driver approach]
>
> Both don't sound like an easy task, so can I ask, what MC (i.e.
> management controller) device and firmware do you use on the other
> side of the MCTP KCS transmissions?

We use OpenBMC as well, but as you mention there are some missing pieces to 
fully support manageability between host and BMC.
We don’t have code to handle MCTP IPMI either, the edk2 ManageabilityPkg 
provides the framework while MCTP/PLDM/KCS implementation provides a sample 
other than IPMI/KCS to prove the flexibility of ManageabilityPkg.
Actually, MCTP over KCS is not supported in our BMC firmware yet, thus BMC just 
returns the invalid command. However, the transport framework has been verified 
to make sure the implementation works fine as expect.
We need help from community to provide more manageability protocols and 
transport interface libraries to this package.

>
> You've also mentioned PLDM SMBIOS, isn't it covered by the
> https://github.com/tianocore/edk2-
> platforms/blob/master/Features/ManageabilityPkg/Universal/PldmSmbiosTr
> ansferDxe/PldmSmbiosTransferDxe.c
> ?
Ah hah, yes I forget I upstream it.

Please just feel free to send patch to make more functionalities to this 
package.
Thanks
Abner

>
>
> Best regards,
> Konstantin Aladyshev
>
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 7:26 PM Chang, Abner <abner.ch...@amd.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > [AMD Official Use Only - General]
> >
> > Hi Aladyshev,
> > We use library class to specify the desire transport interface for the
> management protocol, such as MCTP, PLDM and IPMI. This way we can
> flexibly support any transport interface for the management protocol.
> >
> > Here is the example of using ManageabilityPkg, which is PLDM over MCTP
> over KCS.
> >   ManageabilityPkg/Universal/IpmiProtocol/Dxe/IpmiProtocolDxe.inf {
> >     <LibraryClasses>
> >
> ManageabilityTransportLib|ManageabilityPkg/Library/ManageabilityTranspor
> tKcsLib/Dxe/DxeManageabilityTransportKcs.inf
> >   }
> >   ManageabilityPkg/Universal/MctpProtocol/Dxe/MctpProtocolDxe.inf {
> >     <LibraryClasses>
> >
> ManageabilityTransportLib|ManageabilityPkg/Library/ManageabilityTranspor
> tKcsLib/Dxe/DxeManageabilityTransportKcs.inf
> >   }
> >   ManageabilityPkg/Universal/PldmProtocol/Dxe/PldmProtocolDxe.inf {
> >     <LibraryClasses>
> >
> ManageabilityTransportLib|ManageabilityPkg/Library/ManageabilityTranspor
> tMctpLib/Dxe/DxeManageabilityTransportMctp.inf
> >   }
> >
> > So you can implement ManageabilityTransport library for either industry
> standard or proprietary implementation for the specific management
> protocol.
> >
> > BTW, We do have PLDM SMBIOS over MCTP implementation but not
> upstream yet.
> >
> > Hope this information helps.
> > Thanks
> > Abner
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: disc...@edk2.groups.io <disc...@edk2.groups.io> On Behalf Of
> > > Konstantin Aladyshev via groups.io
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 7:00 PM
> > > To: discuss <disc...@edk2.groups.io>; devel@edk2.groups.io
> > > Subject: [edk2-discuss] PLDM messages via MCTP over KCS
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > I'm trying to build `ManageabilityPkg` from the edk2-platforms
> > >  repo to issue PLDM messages via MCTP over KCS. Is it possible with
> > > the current code? I see all the building blocks, but have trouble
> > > putting it all together.
> > >
> > > The main question that bothers me is what implementation should I set
> > > for the `ManageabilityTransportLib`?
> > > By default it is set to dummy `BaseManageabilityTransportNull.inf`
> > > (https://github.com/tianocore/edk2-
> > >
> platforms/blob/master/Features/ManageabilityPkg/ManageabilityPkg.dsc).
> > >
> > > On one case to get PLDM via MCTP it looks that I need to set it to
> > > `DxeManageabilityTransportMctp.inf`
> > > ManageabilityTransportLib| <...>/DxeManageabilityTransportMctp.inf
> > > (https://github.com/tianocore/edk2-
> > >
> platforms/blob/master/Features/ManageabilityPkg/Library/ManageabilityTra
> > > nsportMctpLib/Dxe/DxeManageabilityTransportMctp.inf)
> > >
> > > But on the other case if I want MCTP over KCS I need to set it to
> > > `DxeManageabilityTransportKcs.inf`
> > > ManageabilityTransportLib| <...>/DxeManageabilityTransportKcs.inf
> > > (https://github.com/tianocore/edk2-
> > >
> platforms/blob/master/Features/ManageabilityPkg/Library/ManageabilityTra
> > > nsportKcsLib/Dxe/DxeManageabilityTransportKcs.inf)
> > >
> > > What is the right way to resolve this?
> > >
> > > There are no platforms in the repo that actually implement PLDM/MCTP
> > > functionality, so there is no example that I can use as a reference.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Konstantin Aladyshev
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> 
>



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