I agree with Oded that currently at the moment people are using the CVS 'live' tree as a release ready version and expecting it to work 100% - a situation that has occured due to the delay of good new releases since the demise of WapIT.
We should direct most 'newer user/developers' of the system to the stable release source to work with and then use a more live cvs tree for the majority of this group that are making daily/weekly changes to their systems. This way we can put more left-field or experimental changes into the system and survive any potential knock-on affect they may have. I know myself I run my own cvs repositry of kannel with 'production' and 'development' versions of the system in there for exactly this reason. Alex On Sun, 19 May 2002, Oded Arbel wrote: > Agreed. I was hoping that at least the billing issue (I remember it > being talked about in the list a while back) would interest people. > I do think, though, that fixes to problems not yet detected "in the > wild" should go in anyway : that's why it's called a "development tree", > if the solution does not break anything - of course. > IMHO, the current situation where the CVS build must never be broken > because it is the "production version" and so patches require careful > scrutiny before going in is not healthy. CVS _is_ the place to test > fixes and new features - when you require that people will download and > apply your patches one by one, the number of testers will shrink to the > number of people interested in the specfic patch - which in a > not-so-high visibility project like Kannel could easily get down to 1~2 > people - or even less. case in point is the +CMTI patch by Alex Judd - > it seems like a perfectly valid feature, but only 2 or 3 people on this > list are at the same time interested and skilled to test it - under a > circumstences where some of them cannot find the time to do so, this > perfectly good feature would simply be abandoned. > > I suggest we should roll out a "release" ASAP, using the following > schedule : > - branch the tree now (yesterday would have been a good time too ;-) and > label it 1.2.0. > - bug fixes may be submitted to either of the trees, and then ported to > the other. > - new features may be submitted only to the HEAD tree. > - features and bug fixes will be submitted freely to the HEAD tree with > minimum checks for style and obvious coding errors. > - the HEAD tree will be considered unstable and fit only for development > work. > > Using this method we would not further degrade the current situation > (where people who have problems are told to upgrade their production > servers to the CVS version - as it is more stable), while stabilizing > the development effort for a full fledged "stable" release w/o hampering > further feature development. > > Opinions please ? > > -- > Oded Arbel > m-Wise Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (972)-67-340014 > (972)-9-9581711 (ext: 116) > > ::.. > Abandon the search for Truth; settle for a good fantasy. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Stipe Tolj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 5:29 PM > > Cc: Kannel-devel (E-mail) > > Subject: Re: [PATCH] problems with HTTPS and base support for > > per message billing. > > > > > > > Both patches are deployed and "works for me", and while I understand > > > that those are not high priority problems for most users, I will be > > > grateful if the patches are incorporated into the CVS (will > > save me work > > > when I update from CVS ;-) > > > > we have to garantee that no "it cool and needed for me" issues go to > > easy to the cvs tree. As long as things can be configured to serve the > > needs of several user parties that's better then having properietary > > solution fixing IMO. > > > > Stipe > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Wapme Systems AG > > > > M�nsterstr. 248 > > 40470 D�sseldorf > > > > Tel: +49-211-74845-0 > > Fax: +49-211-74845-299 > > > > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Internet: http://www.wapme-systems.de > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > wapme.net - wherever you are > > > > > -- Alex Judd http://www.skywire.co.uk
