Well, there's (always) a tradeoff between simplicity and scalability, isn't it?

Regards,
--
Alejandro Guerrieri
[email protected]



On 07/06/2010, at 18:37, Nikos Balkanas wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Didn't intend to be pendatic. Whether smppbox is accepted in the trunk or 
> main tree, it is still being accepted, and documentation must follow. 
> However, if smppbox is rejected, no documentation is needed. If it is 
> revised, documentation will again have to wait for final implementation.
> 
> I am familiar with smppbox functionality from Stipe's release. However, bb is 
> the hub for all external non-HTTP connections. I like current smppbox 
> simplicity and efficiency (it has faster I/O than an external box). Currently 
> it is a bb part and considerable redevelopment will be needed to make it a 
> standalone box. Unless a compelling reason exists to externalize it, I 
> wouldn't want to. But this is just my 2 cents worth.
> 
> Cheers,
> Nikos
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rene Kluwen" <[email protected]>
> To: "'Nikos Balkanas'" <[email protected]>; "'Alexander Malysh'" 
> <[email protected]>
> Cc: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 5:34 PM
> Subject: RE: smppbox
> 
> 
>> 1. Thanks for the lecture. But documentation needs to be written anyway,
>> either if the code will be part of the gateway trunk or separately. I am too
>> busy myself to come up with some proper document any time soon.
>> 
>> 2. I think you understood it wrong. Smppbox is similar to sqlbox with
>> regards that it connects to bearerbox, just like smsbox. The patch is made
>> for Kannel, but smppbox could easily be converted to some kind of
>> smppbox-standalone, just like sqlbox is. You need to start it separately
>> from bearerbox.
>> 
>> So in short: Also a separate box, not required by everyone (as well as
>> wapbox also, which happens to be part of Kannel).
>> 
>> == Rene
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nikos Balkanas [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: maandag 7 juni 2010 16:26
>> To: Rene Kluwen; 'Alexander Malysh'
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: smppbox
>> 
>> Hi Rene,
>> 
>> You may not be aware of it, but there is a 2-step acceptance. Or better
>> phrased accept & commit. Once the patch code is accepted, the patch doc is
>> submitted. Then the whole package is committed to the svn. No sense after
>> all to create a doc if the code is never accepted, right?
>> 
>> That's what i meant, and this is how it is traditionally handled.
>> 
>> SQLbox is an independent separate box, and one that is not necessary to
>> everyone. SMPPbox is part of bearerbox. It can be activated or not based on
>> configuration. But this is a decision for Alex.
>> 
>> BR,
>> Nikos
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rene Kluwen" <[email protected]>
>> To: "'Nikos Balkanas'" <[email protected]>; "'Alexander Malysh'"
>> <[email protected]>
>> Cc: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:46 PM
>> Subject: RE: smppbox
>> 
>> 
>>> You contradict yourself now. First, you said documentation should be ready
>>> first to accept it.
>>> Now you say that you will write documentation when it is accepted.
>>> 
>>> Either way, I was wrong in my original post. I thought that sqlbox was
>>> part
>>> of de gateway svn trunk already. But it is not.
>>> I don't know why not, other from historical reasons but I think (imo)
>>> smppbox should be treated the same way as sqlbox.
>>> 
>>> Personally I think they both belong to 'gateway' instead of separate
>>> projects, because it is a lot easier for the users.
>>> But okay... if someone thinks they have a valid reason to have them split
>>> up
>>> (like the way it is now), it is fine for me as well.
>>> 
>>> == Rene
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nikos Balkanas [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: maandag 7 juni 2010 15:39
>>> To: Rene Kluwen; 'Alexander Malysh'
>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: smppbox
>>> 
>>> OK, then. When it is accepted in the main kannel tree.
>>> 
>>> BR,
>>> Nikos
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rene Kluwen" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "'Nikos Balkanas'" <[email protected]>; "'Alexander Malysh'"
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:21 PM
>>> Subject: RE: smppbox
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I see an excellent opportunity for you, Nikos, to prove your skills,
>>>> writing
>>>> documentation :)
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Nikos Balkanas [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: maandag 7 juni 2010 14:12
>>>> To: Rene Kluwen; Alexander Malysh
>>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: smppbox
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Rene,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks a lot for this contribution. Upon succesful acceptance by kannel
>>>> in
>>>> the main svn, bear in mind that an additional component will be needed: a
>>>> patch to kannel's User's guide. This is a requirement to every patch
>>>> submitted to kannel. Can you take care of it?
>>>> 
>>>> @Alex: This is a long awaited feature to bearerbox. It is also the second
>>>> large contribution by Chimit. According to Rene it has been used in
>>>> production for over a year without problems. I would like to see it in
>>>> mainstream kannel. Is it feasible?
>>>> 
>>>> My vote is +++1
>>>> 
>>>> BR,
>>>> Nikos
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rene Kluwen" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 11:56 PM
>>>> Subject: smppbox
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Lectori Salutem,
>>>>> 
>>>>> This email is about Chimit's smppbox.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The rights to the smppbox code have been obtained by a third party, but
>>>>> fortunately there is some good news for the open source community.
>>>>> 
>>>>> An early version of smppbox (smpp v.3.0) will now be donated back to the
>>>>> community. This version is by no means perfect and developers and
>>>>> investors
>>>>> are invited to contribute. All in the spirit of being an open-source
>>>>> community.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chimit already developed the successful sqlbox, which is now part of the
>>>>> main stream Kannel distribution, so if we all cooperate, this smppbox
>>>>> can
>>>>> go
>>>>> the same way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To get you started, here is a preliminary download:
>>>>> http://www.chimit.nl/kannel/smppbox.tar.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately, due to the expected response, we cannot give you support
>>>>> on
>>>>> this software, other than via the usual Kannel users mailing groups.
>>>>> There
>>>>> is nobody with experience on this particular matter of software, so
>>>>> please
>>>>> bear with me. I have little time to spend on free software. But
>>>>> releasing
>>>>> smppbox is a priority now, even when I cannot give sufficient support to
>>>>> all
>>>>> of you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you want a carrier-grade, commerialy widely deployed smppbox or EMI
>>>>> server functionality, we direct you to the alternatives. For instance
>>>>> the
>>>>> smppbox that Stipe Tolj provides ([email protected]).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers to all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rene Kluwen
>>>>> Chimit
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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