On Fri, 2006-10-27 at 21:11 +0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Jim, > > Sorry for posting to the wrong group. I did not know that it has separated > group and did not be a member of other groups. I did not use jhbuild > instructions too but used build.sh and manually compiling. > > I think it should have one stop service to do all things about OLPC to > prevent mistake that I did. > >
Usually, mailing lists try to make it clear whether they are for generic questions, or, almost always, on specific topics. There are few "one stop shopping" mailing lists or IRC channels anywhere, though they do exist. In general, Supat, discussions and questions should go to the mailing lists and/or IRC channels for the software where that software is developed. We develop most of our software in those projects directly, and we can be found in those projects' mailing lists too. All of us working on OLPC X Window System software are, of course subscribed to those mailing lists as well as the OLPC lists. The reason is simple: most people on the OLPC mailing lists will not be building infrastructure like the X Window System themselves, (they are using the pre-built distribution) and therefore won't be able to answer the questions you ask. People working on building and packaging X will be found on X Window System mailing lists and IRC channels, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. If you will, they are often your peers from Red Hat, SuSE, Ubuntu, etc, who are packaging X for a particular Linux distribution, and the people developing the technology themselves (sometimes people play both roles). On most mailing lists, people will be discussing the software being specifically developed by that project. Even here at OLPC, the volume of mail is already too high, so we've separated devel into two lists: devel, and sugar (for the sugar UI work). This is true in general for mailing lists, not just OLPC. In this case, your question is appropriate, but only somewhat: we are doing some X development as part of OLPC. But X development is in very specific areas only: the AMD Geode display driver and the touchpad. Questions or problems specific to either of those are more than welcome here. There is nothing OLPC specific about building X in general, and it would have been more appropriate to ask on an X.org list. You are *much* more likely to get a quick response on one of the X lists than [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the [email protected] mailing list there are about 3-5 people who might be able to help you with generic X building problems, and of order hundreds of people who won't be able to help at all and to which the question in your mail message is "noise". On the X.org mailing lists and IRC channels, half or more of the people subscribing are in a position that they could have told you that Xcb has some build problems right now, due to its repository layout. Before sending mail to a mailing list think: "is this where most people working in that area who could help with the problem"?, and "is it on topic for this specific list" and "have I tried to find the solution myself"? If you answer these questions first, you'll be helping everyone, including yourself, and get a warmer reception, and get answers much faster. Eric Raymond's essay we noted earlier to you goes into this in more detail. We discuss the OLPC specific X work on the OLPC devel mailing lists because this way we aren't bothering people on the xorg lists with questions and issues that they can't yet help with: our machine is not yet shipping in quantity, so there aren't many people on the X mailing lists able to help in those specific areas. This will change, but right now, this helps both X.org and us. It helps us, by letting people working on OLPC know there may be problems specific to OLPC they might run into, and it helps X.org, by not increasing their mail load when most of those people have no way they could help. If they were interested enough to help, they've likely already subscribed to our list, and asked for a developer board. Best of all, of course, is to search the bug reporting system and/or mailing lists for the project in question (X) first. Google is your friend. You'll often find the answer to your questions without having to wait for us to be awake on the opposite side of the world, or be able to find help in nearby timezones on the right mailing list or IRC channel. The X.org development IRC channel is freenode #xorg-devel (dash rather than underscore). I hope this explanation of the use of mailing lists helps you. Regards, - Jim -- Jim Gettys One Laptop Per Child _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.laptop.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
