[...] > Since the only way Windows is "stopping" any upgrades of the oldest version >> is the builders using 2.16, maybe stopping windows support is just no >> longer making those packages, leaving the code inside #ifdef OS_WIN32 >> there >> for you to build it with your preferred GTK. >> > > I don't understand sorry, why is 2.16 needed for Windows? I have newer > than that. >
Simply because without any maintainer, nobody has taken the windows build stuff off Enrico and updated it to the recommended 2.24. [...] > But thats not a universal experience, and again there is nobody who is >> looking at why and how to fix it. At least the Linux version gets a slow >> trickle of changes. >> > > You are exaggerating. > When I wrote this even you weren't :) Thats not a criticism of you, its not your job. > > >>> >>> >Anyway, although I agree the Windows version isn't as good as it >>> should >>> >>>> right now, I don't really see the problem it causes to the rest of >>>>>> Geany. And if we indeed clean some things up a little like Matthew >>>>>> suggests, it could even be just fine (Windows dialogs, come on). >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I don't mind if Matt wants to remove the Windows dialogs. Enrico put >>> them >>> in, I think they're not really necessary. >>> >> >> >> Again "somebody else do it", Matt having already said he won't. :) >> > > I must have misread him then. > > How about this, I make the Windows dialog pref a various pref and merge > the file overwrite PR. Various prefs are already warned about. > Personally I'm not sure that removing windows dialogs is any sort of priority, unless they are causing bugs. > > Again, the issue is, without anybody to do it, all that happens is that >>> >>>> the >>>> rest of Geany gets less love. >>>> >>>> Lots of people over the years have put forward suggestions, but none of >>>> them have even dropped a PR or patch, let alone assisted with >>>> maintenance. >>>> Its not nice to cut off a platform, but if everybody expects others >>>> to >>>> do >>>> the work, then we may have no choice or the whole project will collapse. >>>> >>>> >>> ^^^ *Massive* exaggeration. Most open source projects have unresolved >>> bugs. Unfunded open source projects work mostly because developers fix >>> problems that they themselves experience. I don't see any significant >>> problems with the Windows version that affect me. >>> >> >> >> And you do work on the problems that affect you, and thank you for that, >> but "support" is also answering bug reports and questions on IRC, >> otherwise >> you get the current situation of Matt and I blundering about in the dark >> (well Matt might have a small torch, but I'm in the dark). I'm not >> criticising you or suggesting you take over the role again, I'm looking >> for >> people to help you. >> > > We shouldn't deprecate it, that won't help anyone. > Did you see my previous post? > > >>> >>> I'm not saying delete anything inside #ifdef OS_WIN32 tomorrow. But >>> also >>> >>>> in fairness some warning that platform specific code is not being >>>> maintained adequately needs to be given to Windows users, and their help >>>> sought, and this is one way I can think of that makes it clear. Other >>>> suggestions are welcome:) >>>> >>>> >>> You are massively overreacting. If we really cared so much about user >>> experience we would make more bugfix releases, but we don't have the >>> resources for that. >>> >> >> >> Indeed, and that is the problem I'm trying to address. If we don't make >> it >> clear to people that they need to step up and help, we will get nowhere. >> > > You can call for contributors. Don't annoy Windows users. > As above. Cheers Lex > > ______________________________**_________________ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.geany.org > https://lists.geany.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/devel<https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel> >
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