Am 30.03.2015 um 14:33 schrieb Lex Trotman:

What is is_plugin()? If its a function in Geany how does it get to
know about new types of plugins without being hard coded?
It knows because the extensions are registered by the function below
called by another plugin right?  How do you make sure that the
register function has been called before you come across a file with
that extension?


For now, I kept it simple: Geany simply restarts the "scan for plugins" loop when new extensions are added during the the scan (remember that during the scan, each file is loaded and its init() is called, before the next file is even attempted). The PM dialog is refreshed in the same way when a pluxy is activated by the user.

It can be made smarter, but it's good enough at the moment.

https://github.com/kugel-/geany/blob/pluxy/src/plugins.c#L878 and https://github.com/kugel-/geany/blob/pluxy/src/plugins.c#L1272




It's new, small helper function I added. It loops through all known file
extensions, and returns the first pluxy (a PluginProxy *) for which a) the
supported file extension matches and b) the probe hook returned true (or is
NULL, for standard plugins).
$file is not a plugin if is_plugin returns NULL, i.e. no pluxy was found.

https://github.com/kugel-/geany/blob/pluxy/src/plugins.c#L844


File extensions and the proxy hooks (probe, load, unload) are registered by
a plugin during its init() through the new plugin_register_proxy() function.
Ok, so this registers a new type of plugin by its extension(s) and
that type is associated with a plugin that provides:

- the loader functionality?
- interface wrappers/bindings (like geanypy does)?
- starts/loads any other things, like the Python interpretor or a JVM
or Haskell runtime?


Yes, but the 2nd and 3rd points are entirely up to the pluxy. My demopluxy.so doesn't do anything fancy. it creates a dummy plugin out of a GKeyFile.

But the loader/unloader function is mandatory, it also acts as the entry point for pluxies to start their bindings/vm machinery if necessary.



Here the pluxy added to the list of registered pluxies. This list is
initialized with the simulated pluxy that provides standard plugins (this is
not a plugin, it's contained in plugins.c, it's just to keep the code paths
equal).

https://github.com/kugel-/geany/blob/pluxy/src/plugins.c#L1601

which matches
additional file extensions (as provided by pluxies), it also calls the
probe() hook to resolve ambiguous files (e.g. .so files, they can be core
or
libpeas plugins)
I'm guessing probe() is a function that looks for something in the .so
that distinguishes if its new or old loader, but what about others?


It depends on the pluxy what the prope() function does! For my peasy pluxy
(that provides generic support for libpeas-based plugins), it looks if there
is a matching *.plugin for a given *.so, and if yes return a code so that
Geany does not attempt to process the .so itself.

https://github.com/kugel-/peasy/blob/master/src/peasy.c#L73

There is no probe() for standard plugins, it accepts all .so.
If it doesn't call probe how does it know if its a traditional plugin,
or a peas one or maybe some other version that makes a .so file?
(Haskell anybody :)

Geany doesn't and cannot know it's a peas plugin, though it could be smarter at determining it's a standard plugin. But I currently implemented a scheme where the first pluxy that matches wins, but if it doesn't match all other pluxes are tried. Geany itself is tried last.

This should work for all real-world cases, even when there are multiple (more than 2) providers for .so files. If the pluxies are accurate enough at determining their own filetypes then no conflicts arise.

Geany is always tried last, so if it gets to process a .so file, then it assumes it's a standard plugin like it's done in git master (no change here)


In the load hook of the pluxy. Either the pluxy calls it directly or it
decides to provide a suitable binding so that the non-C script can call it
itself, but it has to be during the execution of the load hook.
Ok, so if there are all these hooks, probably later the traditional
plugins can be just another pre-registered set of hooks built into
Geany, but I agree with your approach of not trying to do that all in
the first step, leave the existing code as little changed as possible
until the new system settles down and then change the existing code to
use it.


It's done this way already, the hooks are compiled into Geany. As I said the list of pluxies is initialized with a simulated one that provides the standard plugins { .extension = { "so", NULL }, .probe = NULL, .load = plugin_load_so, .unload = plugin_unload_so };


Best regards
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