On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 02:59:00PM -0400, Ivan Krsti�? wrote:
> On Jul 7, 2008, at 10:29 AM, Martin Dengler wrote:
> >No response?
> 
> Your message _appears_ to suppose that the security model was defined  
> for the hell of it, or because someone wanted to engage in an  
> interesting academic experiment, and thus breaking the security model  
> when it's convenient is somehow okay.

Relax.  How about I tell you that I have given you a wholly false
impression, and ask my question again:

> > "seamless" and "seamful" seem very wooly words.  Are they, in this
> > context, well-defined?

The rest has been adequately discussed and I thank you & everyone for
their exposition.

> --
> Ivan Krstić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | http://radian.org

Martin

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