Martin, you make some good points. Sorry for the late reply. On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 10:56 +1300, Martin Langhoff wrote: > [Note: this is a resend - with some better editing - the earlier email > got sent prematurely...] > > On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2) IMHO using > > the XO as XS is not a good idea. > > Nothing explains in your post why it's a bad idea. If you are going to > setup a "safe" cabinet of some sort for the server, it's not very > different to make an XO safe from making a tower pc safe.
I just fail to see all that many advantages to using the XO. We can add a lot of value to the XS and deployments in general very quickly w/ a more powerful system. > Your points about other bits of infra are very valuable. Cable theft, > antenna theft are also important. Interstingly, _deployment countries_ > are asking us whether the XOs can be used in the XS role. People on > the ground there are asking for it. > - Procurement process is complex. Once they have the govt OK to get > XOs, it's relatively easier to request extra XOs for the role. Getting > other hw for the XS can take months if not years. Sadly, it is very true that government's often have extremely onerous procurement procedures. This point is very true. > - Very few hw makers are offering machines that are solid state, > heat/dust/humidity resistant. The XO has all of that and is cheap. The > few hw makers I've seen offering similar features are rather > expensive. > > Additionally, I am convinced that school administrators would see the > > XO-as-XS as a spare XO and distribute to kids who don't have XO's at > > their school or take it home to their own child. > > It won't even boot to Sugar, and user education call take a part here > -- I don't think the confusion will last very long. > > You may not want it for the Nepal deployment, but we cannot argue with > the fact that there is intense interest. > > There are also other use cases where it's useful to be able to run the > XS sw on an XO - for example, the warehouse scenarios where you take 1 > XO and use it as the server that will update all the other XOs. > The issue of theft is real, but is not limited to the XO hw -- and in > fact, a normal tower pc is in some cases more desirable - as it's a > general purpose machine. Uruguay has -- I believe -- done some > interesting work in securing their school servers, though I don't know > the details. > > This is work that needs to happen for a long list of reasons. Within > the constraints we have, I aim for flexibility: give the local teams a > range of options, and this is a _very_ valuable one, one that is > within reach now that a vanilla Fedora boots on the XO. > > cheers, > > > > m > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect > - ask interesting questions > - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first > - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff > > > -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org _______________________________________________ Server-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
