On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Bill Bogstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Responding to ds-backup issues first: > > Great summary -- should we move this to devel and/or server-devel?
The above was from what was an off-list discussion of compatibility issues between released versions of OLPC software (XS 0.4 and as yet undetermined pre-767 XO releases). I'm going to use it to semi-rant about something. Can I suggest instead a new mailing list for server SUPPORT be created as opposed to DEVELOPMENT? And what about doing XO support on commmunity-support rather then devel? I think that both server-devel and devel are used too often for things that they shouldn't be. It's not surprising that this happened, the developers needed a place to talk and when people started using their stuff they had questions/issues and tended to gravitate to the channels where the experts hung out. I think it's time, however, that OLPC grew out of this phase. There are now 100s of thousands of XO users and many of them will be interacting with XS soon if they aren't already. They shouldn't have to wade through announcements of the Nth joyride or XS-0.5dev92, issues with OLPC's build system, or debxo in order to engage in discussion about issues with released software (for example XS 0.4 and XO 767). (BTW, what exactly does 'released' mean for OLPC in terms of QA testing/documentation or continuing support?) I'm NOT saying that such discussions shouldn't appear publicly, the more open the better. I'm saying that a little better organization of the mailing list namespace/usage patterns would make it easier for people who aren't part of the whirlwind that is OLPC development to both get what they need and help out. It would also make it easier to keep track of whether issues were just in some one-of development release that doesn't matter or need to be documented more formally with fixes in a FAQ on the wiki. As for specific proposal(s): 1. Move all discussion of released XO images to community-support. Encourage non-developers/testers to subscribe to community-support rather then devel. 2. Create a server-support mailing list. Similarly encourage IT support personnel to subscribe here rather then server-devel (unless they are actively tracking development releases). Move all discussions of released XS images here. Bill Bogstad P.S. I have no intention of dropping off of devel or server-devel, but I would find it useful mentally to have things better separated. _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
