On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Erik Garrison <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 04:42:48PM -0500, Greg Smith wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Thanks for all the feedback on my questions about what it would take to > > run a slimmed down Fedora 10 on the XO NAND. > > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-olpc-list/2008-December/msg00022.html > > > > To reiterate, the goal is one distribution with two Desktop Environments > > (Sugar and one "standard" one). > > What of the case where all the functionality of Sugar can be replicated > using a properly-configured standard desktop environment? (Strawman > this sentence may be, but I think we should be open to this option > moving forward.) > > > I think the main work now is to pick the minimal package list that we > > need and will fit on the XO NAND. > > This is *the* work of making builds. > > > Can anyone get a slimmed down Fedora 10 with window manager running on > > an XO? > > Yes. I have a build tool which does so. See: > > http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/erik/rpmxo;a=summary > > or just: > > git clone git://dev.laptop.org/users/erik/rpmxo > > The build tool depends on the current development version of rinse, a > rpm bootstrapping utility. For our testing purposes I have included a > copy of the rinse mercurial repository in that git tree > (http://rinse.repository.steve.org.uk/). > > Then install rinse by following the instructions in the > rinse.repository.steve.org.uk directory in the rpmxo repo created by the > above git command. You will need perl, rpm, and wget (note the > dependencies listed at http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/rinse). > Rinse manages a variety of common issues encountered when build and > re-building images, such as caching rpms, bootstrapping yum, and running > post-install scripts. It does so in a relatively platform-independent > manner. The author and I have been working together to update the > system for Fedora 10 and to increase its configurability. (Please note > that I have submitted changes to the author's repo which may not yet be > reflected in a fresh clone, this is why I have temporarily added the > repository to the rpmxo git tree.) > > To run the build script do: > > sudo ./initchroot.sh > > ... in the rpmxo git repository directory yielded by the git clone > command above. > > By default this will make f10.root. Then generate an image to flash > onto an unsecured laptop by using: > > sudo ./mkjffs2.sh fc10.root fc10.img > > This will create the .crc and .img files which are required for OFW to > flash the image onto the laptop. Putting these on a USB key and typing: > > copy-nand u:\fc10.img > > ... at the OFW prompt on an XO will flash the system onto the internal > NAND. Rebooting should yield a prompt > > This procedure is still in alpha. Interested parties should test and > immediately inform me of any issues encountered. > > > > The hard part will come when we need to pick the bare minimum set of > > functionality. I especially want to know what additional > > libraries/RPMs/features we need to install beyond what we alrady have in > > XO 8.2.0. > > I have been quite frustrated with the Fedora toolset in this regard. > Getting a bare minimum of functionality is not something which these > tools are typically used to do. The experience of building a Fedora > system from 'scratch' contrasts starkly with what we find in Debian, > where debootstrapping is a common development pattern which is > well-supported by the community. > > It can be done, and I am going to seek as much help from the Fedora > community in doing so as possible. It just isn't easy and I have felt > like there are a lot of problems in using Fedora in this fashion which > will have to be resolved to make it easy for deployments to use such a > build script. > > (I sincerely hope someone flames me here as any attention to this issue > is good attention.) sure :) why aren't you building off mstone's work on Puritan? It seems like a lot of duplication of effort; unless I'm missing something, the biggest difference seems to be that yours may be more debian-like. Bobby > Erik > _______________________________________________ > Devel mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >
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