Am Samstag, den 16.05.2009, 12:58 +0100 schrieb Peter Robinson: > >> >> We have some good news: OLPC has decided to base its software release > >> >> for the new XO-1.5 laptop on Fedora 11. Unlike previous releases, we > >> >> plan to use a full Fedora desktop build, booting into Sugar but giving > >> >> users the option to switch into a standard GNOME install instead. > >> > > >> > If you say "OLPC has decided" I wonder who exactly made this decision > >> > and when/if it was discussed in public. Can you please point us to the > >> > relevant mails, meeting minutes, irc logs or whatever? > >> > >> I suspect (and the same goes for the post about KDE) that it was/is > >> being discussed at the SugarCamp currently taking place in France. > > > > I have to admit that face to face conversations are often more > > productive than mailing lists, but the downside is that decisions are > > harder to comprehend. > > > >> The > >> good thing about it being based on Fedora 11 it will be easy to > >> install XFCE/KDE or what ever each specific deployment wish to use > >> with a simple yum command. > > > > I'm afraid with Gnome installed by default there won't be much space > > left to install anything else. > > > >> I suspect the reason for the choice of > >> gnome is due to the massive cross over of sub systems between gnome > >> and sugar. Many of the underlying systems used in sugar are also > >> components of gnome. Some of these include > >> empathy/gstreamer/evince/abiword/totem etc which will reduce the > >> duplication of duplicate packages required to support both UIs and > >> hence the amount of engineering required by smaller OLPC/sugar teams. > > > > Same goes for Xfce. gstreamer for example is not a Gnome thing. It > > started that way but the gstreamer devs always point out that it's a > > generic framework. Abiword or gnumeric are not really Gnome ether, they > > only use some Gnome libs but don't need a Gnome desktop. So if this > > really was the line of thought, IMHO it's a little weak. > > I wasn't part of the discussions, nor am I interested in a flame war > about the pros and cons of the various desktop environments.
So am I. Sorry if me previous mail sounded like that. I don't want flame wars, but we should be able to discuss advantages and downsides of different desktops to the purpose. > I'm also > well aware that gstreamer is a generic framework. I have no idea what > media framework XFCE uses, I know KDE doesn't use gstreamer which in > the KDE case would require having 2 multimedia frameworks installed. Xfce uses gstreamer, so duplication wouldn't be a problem. > Same goes for a word processing package etc etc. My point wasn't > whether any of the packages were GNOME or not my point was that both > Sugar and GNOME share a number of underlying components such as > gstreamer/glib/gtk etc which means its easier to support the two > platforms by not needing the time to ship/QA/deal with bugs going > forward multiple underlying frameworks and libraries. Same goes for Xfce, same stack: glibc, gtk, gstreamer etc. $ rpm -qa --requires \*sugar\* | sort | uniq | grep gnome gnome-python2-gnomevfs gnome-python2-libwnck gnome-python2-rsvg $ As you can see Sugar itself does not have much underlying gnome components, but Gnome would pull all that stuff in. > But again I make > the point I'm not part of the discussions of the choice, but was > merely making an observation as to what might have been one of the > factors of making the choice. No problem Peter, thanks a lot for your answers. Maybe someone else can share some details with us? > Peter Kind regards, Christoph _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel