In the case of Turtle Art, I put a link from Activities/All to the corresponding ALSO page; now I just update ALSO, but it should be easy enough to follow that link. Easy enough to do for all the apps that have migrated. What I haven't done is try to make any changes to which activities are associated with the update process, e.g., g1g1 or latu... I think this should not be the responsibility of individual activity authors; the organizations themselves should be managing what versions of what applications are loaded onto their machines by default.
regards. -walter On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Gabriel Eirea<gei...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Whatever the decision on this topic is, I would appreciate that the > interests of the already installed base are taken into account. I agree that > the Activities/All page is outdated and ASLO has a much better interface. > > However, at least here in Uruguay, most of the kids and teachers rely on > Activities/All as a starting point to get new activities. This is because > Browse's home page had a link to the Activities page. It was very > frustrating when most of the activities were moved from Activities to > Activities/All without a proper communication to the users. I would not like > to see that happen again. > > I understand that this is mostly an issue for Latu in the first place, OLPC > in the second place, and Sugarlabs in the third place. Would it be possible > to get an agreement between all involved parties about the best way to move > forward? > > Regards, > > Gabriel > > > 2009/6/17 S Page <skierp...@gmail.com> >> >> [I removed some cc'd lists of which I'm not a member] >> >> Summary: Replacing http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/All with >> {{obsolete|link=http://activities.sugarlabs.org}} >> sounds great to me. >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Sean DALY<sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > OLPC has their list (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/All) and we >> > need to get that page to link to ASLO ... >> >> I added a bullet to this and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities : >> >> * http://activities.sugarlabs.org has lots of activities for recent >> versions of the [[Sugar]] environment, ''some'' of which may work on >> OLPC [[builds]]. >> >> > ..., the information there is uneven >> > (contains some stillborn/abandonware). >> >> The current split organization is a mess and duplication provides >> twice as many opportunities to be wrong. There's a dozen other lists >> of "all activities" on wiki.laptop.org besides the Activities/All >> page, see http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_queries , killing off >> some isn't going to hurt. So just be brave and change it to >> {{obsolete|link=http://activities.sugarlabs.org}} >> >> > Perhaps the easiest fix would >> > be to link from each Activity position on that page to that Activity's >> > ASLO page; >> Sure, you could replace the fancy activity descriptions on >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/All with a simple link to their >> ASLO page. >> >> > people searching the Activity population would quickly >> > understand the different/parallel nature of the OLPC page and ASLO. >> >> If you can understand it, please explain it ;-) Activities/All >> claims "This is a list of all stable Activities that can be installed >> in the latest Sugar.", but >> * they are NOT all getting updated >> * "latest Sugar" meaning what? OLPC doesn't ship latest Sugar. >> >> > As >> > far as I know, there aren't any issues with the very latest versions >> > running on XO-1s, would I be correct in assuming this? >> >> You're incorrect. Sugar 0.84 is different from the Sugar 0.82.1 in >> OLPC release 8.2.0 and 8.2.1. I understand there are issues for >> Browse, Etoys, and Read which depend on libraries and already have >> separate "latest versions". I assume some other activities have >> problems. Unfortunately, most activity pages on a.sl.o and on >> wiki.laptop.org don't specify their compatibility clearly, and it's >> impossible to tell the difference between "Old version NN is still >> truly the latest version that works on OLPC's 8.2" and "Nobody's >> bloody updated this out-of-date info". >> >> > Or does OLPC >> > prefer to identify "known good" version, the ones updated through the >> > XO Control Panel? >> >> In OLPC release 8.2.0 and subsequent releases, the Software update >> control panel updates installed activities using a complex fallback >> mechanism involving *other, separate* pages such as Activities/8.2 >> and/or Activities/G1G1/8.2 , see >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Software_update . Those subpages are where >> "known good version" info must live for Software update to work, while >> other activity pages are mostly useless out-of-date cruft. Maintaining >> all these pages is manual and complicated, see >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Maintaining_activity_web_information , and >> for many activities it isn't happening. >> >> Hope this helps, >> -- >> =S Page >> _______________________________________________ >> Sugar-devel mailing list >> sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
