On Aug 24, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote: > Pareciera ser que estamos en una situación de violación de la > licencia... > > Una pregunta, deduzco entonces que OLPC no está a cargo de > entregar las claves de desarrollador para las XO que están en Perú - > me pregunto: Las maquinas Peruanas todavia usan las claves de OLPC.
> En Perú, cómo puede un maestro o un chico, solicitar una clave de > desarrollador? Se puede solicitar una clave de desarollador a través del sitio web de OLPC. > Hernán? Koke? > > Debemos asegurarnos que nuestros estados estén cumpliendo con > las condiciones de la licencia. > > Gracias > > Sebastian > > > 2009/8/24 Andrés Ambrois <andresambr...@gmail.com>: >> On Monday 24 August 2009 10:11:54 am Walter Bender wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:48 AM, John Gilmore<g...@toad.com> wrote: >>>> Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 >>>> users in Uy >>>> >>>>> Remember that Ceibal XOs have root access locked-down. And I >>>>> recently >>>>> found out that since the key-delegation stuff was implemented, >>>>> we can't >>>>> request developer keys. Not from OLPC at least, and LATU is not >>>>> providing that service that I know... >>>> >>>> Could someone please clarify this? >>> >>> According to Ceilbal (24-08-09): >>> >>> "We have delivered developer keys in the past, and we will >>> deliver them to >>> the owner of the machine upon request." >>> >>> Therefore, I do not think that there is a violation of the GPL. >> >> I wrote to Ceibal asking for information and this is what they >> replied: >> >> "Hola Andrés, >> Debido al sistema de seguridad incorporado en la XO, el Plan >> Ceibal no brinda >> la clave de desarrollador. Esto se debe, a que una persona con >> acceso a la >> clave podría desactivar la seguridad de la máquina. >> Cualquier otra consulta, no dudes en volver a comunicarte." >> >> Translation: >> >> Hello Andrés, >> >> Because of the security system built into the XO, Plan Ceibal >> doesn't provide >> developer keys. This is because a person with access to the key could >> deactivate the security of the machine. >> Don't hesitate in contacting us for any other questions. >> >>> -walter >>> >>>> It sounds like Project Ceibal is explicitly violating the GNU >>>> General >>>> Public License on much or all of the software that it ships: >>>> >>>> * It provides binaries without source code, and without a written >>>> offer of source code. >>>> >>>> * It provides binaries in a physical form (laptop) which is >>>> protected against modification by the end-user, so that those >>>> users cannot replace the GPLv3-licensed software on the laptop >>>> with later versions. More than 20 packages shipped are GPLv3 >>>> licensed, as of 12 months ago, including the Coreutils (most >>>> shell commands), tar and cpio (used for software updates), and >>>> gettext (internationalization). GPLv3 requires that the >>>> relevant >>>> passwords or keys must be supplied to the end user -- including >>>> both the "developer key" and the root password. >>>> >>>> * Some programs are modified, but the modified versions are not >>>> marked to distinguish them from the original GPL-licensed >>>> programs. >>>> >>>> There are other less important violations as well (most are >>>> documented >>>> at bugs.laptop.org; search for "GPL"). >>>> >>>> I would be happy to learn that the children receiving these laptops >>>> have full access to source code, ability to upgrade their laptops >>>> at will, and can tell modified from unmodified software. Please >>>> let >>>> me know what is really happening in the schools of Uruguay. >>>> >>>> John Gilmore >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Devel mailing list >>>> Devel@lists.laptop.org >>>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> >> -- >> -Andrés >> _______________________________________________ >> Sugar-devel mailing list >> sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >> > > > > -- > Sebastian Silva > Laboratorios FuenteLibre > http://blog.sebastiansilva.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel