Hi James, Really appreciate that you felt it right to write this mail. I am all for it. Anyway, why should you think that I wish you did not reply? And to support your thought, yes, I will second your thought that a regular and helpful contributor should be helped.
>> I am surprised that you made public a private mail .. I explained the reason already but I will repeat it. The intention was not to make it public but to bring the question back to the list; if it had been otherwise, I would have "forwarded" the email to the list. The question was important because it will be important to explain the solution and the reasons to end-users satisfactorily. Regards, Jv On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:51 AM, James Cameron <qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > G'day Jv, > > I will reply to this e-mail regardless of your wish that I not, > because I feel I should defend someone who is a regular and helpful > contributor. > > I think you have misinterpreted the private mail from Mikus. I do not > see any spiteful tone or offensive behaviour. He is trying to > understand by asking questions and using emphasis. > > It is helpful to use words that have common meanings, and your mail, > Jv, was harder to understand than others, because the meanings you > used were not common. I avoided answering it because I didn't > understand. It is good that someone tried to understand, even if I > didn't. > > I am surprised that you made public a private mail ... this is not > something I would be comfortable doing, but I acknowledge you felt > hurt. > > I ask that you please re-read Mikus mail with greater care, starting > with the assumption that Mikus is trying to communicate despite the > apparent barrier of word meanings. > > On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 07:42:27PM +0530, RJV wrote: > > Mikus, I am sorry, too, that you found it SO important to answer an > email that > > is not to your wavelength. Btw, your email looks like human spam to me so > > marking your email id for spam and is so offensive in tone that I have a > good > > mind to withdraw from this list. Did I forget to mention that I did not > read > > more than three lines of your enail. > > > > Do not reply to this email. > > > > For the rest in this list, this email from Mikus is far too spiteful in > tone > > for anyone to ignore. Will somebody care to explain unless of course if > the > > email is okay as per the question. > > > > Thanks for any coherent reply. > > > > Jv > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <mi...@bga.com> wrote: > > > > On 10/07/2012 10:44 PM, RJV wrote: > > > > why I posted this is to know whether one > > reflashes all the time or is there a more graceful way of > getting XO > > back > > on Sugar through Linux? > > > > > > I'm sorry - you and I are on completely different wavelengths. > > > > You use phrases that mean something to you, but have NO significance > > whatsoever to me. For instance "back on Sugar through Linux": > > > > If one is in Sugar, there is the capability to get into GNOME by > doing: > > left-click_on_XO-image -> My Settings -> Switch desktop -> Switch to > Gnome > > -> Restart now ... and one is presented with the GNOME desktop. The > > principal use I myself see in Gnome is if the user wants to manage > multiple > > windows, or is uncomfortable with Sugar-style full screen. > > > > I myself do NOT use GNOME if I can help it -- I find I can do almost > > everything I need from the 'Terminal Activity' screen in Sugar. > > [By the way, if you do not want the XO to suspend itself, you can go > to My > > Settings -> Power, and unmark all the checkboxes in that panel.]. > > > > If one is in the GNOME environment, there is the capability to get > into > > Sugar by doing: Applications -> System Tools -> Switch to Sugar -> > OK ... > > and one is presented with the Sugar Home View screen. > > > > > > IT IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR CLARITY THE WAY YOU ARE USING THE WORD > 'LINUX'. > > > > The XO runs Linux all the time, whether that XO happens to be in the > Sugar > > environment or happens to be in the GNOME environment. Please use > the word > > 'Linux' only when you mean a desktop system (or equivalent) running > a Linux > > distribution (such as Ubuntu). Please use the word 'Windows' when > you mean > > a desktop system running Windows. Please use the word 'Sugar' only > when > > you mean an XO running in an Sugar environment. Please use the term > > 'Sugar-on-non_XO' when you mean Sugar running on any kind of > hardware other > > than an XO. Please use the word 'GNOME' when you mean an XO running > in an > > 'GNOME' environment. Please use the term 'GNOME-on-non_XO' when you > mean > > GNOME running on any kind of hardware other than an XO. > > > > > > IT IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR CLARITY THE WAY YOU ARE USING THE WORD > 'FLASH'. > > > > In the context of an XO: Please use the word 'flash' when you mean > using > > the OFW 'flash' command to replace the .rom firmware inside an XO. > Please > > use the term 'install the build' when you mean the process of > replacing (or > > putting) the operating system software inside an XO. Please avoid > the word > > 'reflash' - it's sloppy; instead please use the word 'reinstall' and > > mention what it is you are reinstalling (e.g., 'reinstall the build' > if you > > mean replacing the operating system in the XO by a "virgin" copy). > > > > > > In the context of 'reinstalling' -- there is no NEED to "reinstall" > the > > operating system in the XO unless the one you already have is > corrupted (or > > you have obtained access to a better/newer version). > > > > > > DID I FORGET WHICH OS BUILD YOU HAVE INSTALLED? > > > > > > > > > > I need to run a 3G (Airtel - Indian telecom provider) and may > need > > some help on this. > > > > > > Given the kind of questions you are asking, I would __STRONGLY > ADVISE__ you > > NOT to try using an XO for this purpose: > > > > The only way an XO can talk directly to 3G is with a "dongle". But > the > > "dongle" will need software. [You can only _hope_ that wvdial.rpm > is the > > only significant item of software you would need to pick up > yourself.] > > That software will almost certainly require 'dependencies' to be > installed > > in the operating system - will they be available? And will all the > needed > > software run on an XO? Is the wvdial.rpm that you downloaded even > meant > > for the ARM architecture? [Remember that (non-Android) ARM-CPU > operating > > systems have only recently arrived for general distribution.] > > > > There may also be difficulties tying in the Network Management in an > XO > > with a connection through 3G. [I myself am currently using an > ethernet > > (wired) path to the internet from my XO-1.75 - but that takes > advantage of > > me having four years of experience using ethernet with XOs - others > might > > encounter hurdles.] > > > > In any case, I myself am not an user of 3G (i.e., cellular data). > So I do > > not expect to be able to help you. [I do have an Android tablet - > and you > > have no idea of how many people have posted to its support forum > about > > problems setting up good 3G service.] > > > > > > mikus > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Ravichandran Jv > > http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > Devel mailing list > > Devel@lists.laptop.org > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > > -- > James Cameron > http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com
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