Hi Sameer, 2013/9/10 Sameer Verma <sve...@sfsu.edu>: > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Caryl Bigenho <cbige...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi... >> >> I have also been waiting patiently (well, not really very patiently) for >> some news about Sugar coming to Android. So far, I have heard nothing new. >> So I guess it isn't too late to throw my educator's opinion into the mix... >> One of the things that makes Sugar the ideal learning platform for >> children (and youth) is the wonderful compatibility of so many of the >> Activities ... both from Activity to Activity and from student to student. >> This facilitates the sort of learning we are all hoping to see more of... >> creative problem solving, project based learning and cooperative learning. >> Without this ability to integrate parts of projects, it would just be >> another collection of apps. >> Thanks for "listening" >> Caryl >> > > Hi Caryl, > > Thanks for writing back. I am a bit surprised that I got more off-list > responses than on-list ones. I did not want to muddy the picture by > injecting my own viewpoint, but now that I've heard from others (on and off > list) it is clear that the split is driven by the role they play in the > ecosystem. > > Most technologists have come up with reasons why they don't think a complete > Sugar experience would work on Android. Therefore, activities must run like > any other app on Android. On the other hand, as Caryl said, "Without this > ability to integrate...it would just be a collection of apps". > > Somewhat knowing the limitations of what can be done with Sugar stuff on > Android, but disregarding that for a minute, I would say that Sugar as a > *platform* is an experience. It has a UI. It has a UX. Everything from the > Zoom interface to the activities to the Journal is Sugar. We have taken the > original "Sugar on the OLPC XO" experience and replicated that to the > classmate PC, SoaS, and other spins and distros, but in none of these cases > did we break the holistic Sugar experience. Now, along comes a popular OS, > and because the tech parts don't fit, we are advocating breaking up the > pieces and taking whatever flies. Memorize will become one of the few > hundred thousand apps on Android. > > I disagree. > > It's like saying we'll do the cat sprite from Scratch, but nothing else. > It's like saying we'll do the birds and pigs from Angry Birds, but not the > slingshot. Sugar, without all its pieces isn't worth the trouble. How it > will get done (if it will get done) is another story, and I wish we would > hear more about it onlist. > > cheers, > Sameer > >> ________________________________ >> From: sve...@sfsu.edu >> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:14:59 -0700 >> To: i...@lists.sugarlabs.org; devel@lists.laptop.org >> Subject: [IAEP] Sugar on Android via HTML5 >> >> >> So, I've been mulling this for some time now. At work we are looking into >> using FireFoxOS as a platform for HTML5 apps in some of our courses. It's >> exciting that there is some momentum on the HTML5 activities in Sugar. >> >> What I'm unsure about is the implementation. Outside of the classic Sugar >> shell and activities (say, on a XO), are we envisioning the whole Sugar >> experience on Android, UI and all, or are we looking to have Sugar >> activities running on Android (with appropriate mods) but as yet another >> app? >> >> Has there been any conversation on this that I missed?
We are slowly getting closer to Sugar Android. We are working as a community in a best-effort basis, and all depends on how many people gets involved. So thanks for joining the discussion. We reached some goals already: - we have web activities running over Sugar GTK as first-class citizens. - we are documenting as we go http://developer.sugarlabs.org/ - and today I published a first draft of the API http://markable.in/file/fe27c384-1a38-11e3-b539-984be164924a/ that is implemented in GTK to allow web activities, and which needs to be implemented in Android to allow the same. Cheers, -- .. manuq .. _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
