It's not about the app. It's about the MPI standard. With one mpirun you start one MPI application (SPMD or MPMD but still only one). The first impact of this, is all processes started with one mpirun command will belong to the same MPI_COMM_WORLD.

Our mpirun is in fact equivalent to the mpiexec as defined in the MPI standard. Therefore, we cannot change it's behavior, outside the MPI 2 standard boundaries.

Moreover, both of the approaches you described will only add corner cases, which I rather prefer to limit in number.

  george.


On Jul 27, 2007, at 8:42 AM, Ralph Castain wrote:




On 7/26/07 4:22 PM, "Aurelien Bouteiller" <boute...@cs.utk.edu> wrote:

mpirun -hostfile big_pool -n 10 -host 1,2,3,4 application : -n 2 - host
99,100 ft_server

This will not work: this is a way to launch MIMD jobs, that share the
same COMM_WORLD. Not the way to launch two different applications that
interact trough Accept/Connect.

Direct consequence on simple NAS benchmarks are:
* if the second command does not use MPI-Init, then the first
application locks forever in MPI-Init
* if both use MPI init, the MPI_Comm_size of the jobs are incorrect.


****
bouteill@dancer:~$ ompi-build/debug/bin/mpirun -prefix
/home/bouteill/ompi-build/debug/ -np 4 -host node01,node02,node03,node04
NPB3.2-MPI/bin/lu.A.4 : -np 1 -host node01 NPB3.2-MPI/bin/mg.A.1


 NAS Parallel Benchmarks 3.2 -- LU Benchmark

     Warning: program is running on  5 processors
     but was compiled for   4
 Size:  64x 64x 64
 Iterations: 250
 Number of processes:     5

Okay - of course, I can't possibly have any idea how your application
works... ;-)

However, it would be trivial to simply add two options to the app_context
command line:

1. designates that this app_context is to be launched as a separate job

2. indicates that this app_context is to be "connected" ala connect/ accept
to the other app_contexts (if you want, we could even take an argument
indicating which app_contexts it is to be connected to). Or we could reverse
this as indicate we want it to be disconnected - all depends upon what
default people want to define.

This would solve the problem you describe while still allowing us to avoid
allocation confusion. I'll send it out separately as an RFC.

Thanks
Ralph




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