I think that's a reasonable solution. However, the words "not it" come to mind. Sorry, but I have way too much on my plate this month. By the way, in case no one noticed, I had e-mailed my findings to devel. Someone might want to reply to Dorian's e-mail on users.

Brian

On Dec 11, 2008, at 2:31 PM, George Bosilca wrote:

Brian,

You're right, the datatype is being too cautious with the boundaries when detecting the overlap. There is no good solution to detect the overlap except parsing the whole memory layout to check the status of every predefined type. As one can imagine this is a very expensive operation. This is reason I preferred to use the true extent and the size of the data to try to detect the overlap. This approach is a lot faster, but has a poor accuracy.

The best solution I can think of in short term is to remove completely the overlap check. This will have absolutely no impact on the way we pack the data, but can lead to unexpected results when we unpack and the data overlap. But I guess this can be considered as a user error, as the MPI standard clearly state that the result of such an operation is ... unexpected.

 george.

On Dec 10, 2008, at 22:20 , Brian Barrett wrote:

Hi all -

I looked into this, and it appears to be datatype related. If the displacements are set t o 3, 2, 1, 0, there the datatype will fail the type checks for one-sided because is_overlapped() returns 1 for the datatype. My reading of the standard seems to indicate this should not be. I haven't looked into the problems with displacement set to 0, 1, 2, 3, but I'm guessing it has something to do with the reverse problem.

This looks like a datatype issue, so it's out of my realm of expertise. Can someone else take a look?

Brian

Begin forwarded message:

From: doriankrause <doriankra...@web.de>
Date: December 10, 2008 4:07:55 PM MST
To: us...@open-mpi.org
Subject: [OMPI users] Onesided + derived datatypes
Reply-To: Open MPI Users <us...@open-mpi.org>

Hi List,

I have a MPI program which uses one sided communication with derived
datatypes (MPI_Type_create_indexed_block). I developed the code with
MPICH2 and unfortunately didn't thought about trying it out with
OpenMPI. Now that I'm "porting" the Application to OpenMPI I'm facing some problems. On the most machines I get an SIGSEGV in MPI_Win_fence, sometimes an invalid datatype shows up. I ran the program in Valgrind and didn't get anything valuable. Since I can't see a reason for this problem (at least if I understand the standard correctly), I wrote the
attached testprogram.

Here are my experiences:

* If I compile without ONESIDED defined, everything works and V1 and V2
give the same results
* If I compile with ONESIDED and V2 defined (MPI_Type_contiguous) it works. * ONESIDED + V1 + O2: No errors but obviously nothing is send? (Am I in
assuming that V1+O2 and V2 should be equivalent?)
* ONESIDED + V1 + O1:
[m02:03115] *** An error occurred in MPI_Put
[m02:03115] *** on win
[m02:03115] *** MPI_ERR_TYPE: invalid datatype
[m02:03115] *** MPI_ERRORS_ARE_FATAL (goodbye)

I didn't get a segfault as in the "real life example" but if ompitest.cc
is correct it means that OpenMPI is buggy when it comes to onesided
communication and (some) derived datatypes, so that it is probably not
of problem in my code.

I'm using OpenMPI-1.2.8 with the newest gcc 4.3.2 but the same behaviour
can be be seen with gcc-3.3.1 and intel 10.1.

Please correct me if ompitest.cc contains errors. Otherwise I would be glad to hear how I should report these problems to the develepors (if
they don't read this).

Thanks + best regards

Dorian




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