No offense, but I would like some better evidence that the new changes are more complete than this last round. It was disturbing to find that the changes were not in fact ready to come into the trunk - as Rainer noted, he had to include a separate commit that actually broke the system because he couldn't make it compile with his changes.

Unfortunately, this situation was not communicated *prior* to agreeing to the RFC.

I would like to see some concrete evidence that this next round doesn't suffer from similar deficiencies before it enters the system. Otherwise, let's branch now (once we recover from this last disruption). Greg's changes are not critical for making the system work, and don't represent a new "feature" - they can come into the system at any point down the road once we have assurance that they actually work.


On Apr 29, 2009, at 4:29 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote:

Let's let the #include changes settle down a bit and then let's get Greg's stuff in. Then let's let that settle, and then we'll branch for 1.5.

On Apr 28, 2009, at 10:32 PM, Rainer Keller wrote:

Hello all,
as You may have noticed, the two patches for header cleanup have been
committed  (SVN: r21095, r21096). Thanks Ralph.


Up to now, the consensus was, that the renaming patches by Gregory Koenig should be integrated just before branching to minimize drift between branch
and trunk.

Now is the time ;-) End of this week, just before the branch is done, Greg would apply the name changes. Ralph&Jeff, please let us know, when You'll plan
to make the move. Thanks!


With best regards,
Rainer



On Tuesday 28 April 2009 12:50:03 pm Ralph Castain wrote:
> Hi folks
>
> We are ready to branch the next feature release series - tagged 1.5. Rainer > will be doing a rather intrusive commit later this evening to cleanup > unnecessary header file dependencies. Once the dust from that settles
> (probably end of the week), we will do the branch.
>
> For now, the branch will be done via subversion. Once the IU infrastructure
> to support Mercurial is completed, the branch and the rest of the
> repository will be converted to Mercurial. We would rather just do the
> branch now instead of wait for that to be completed.
>
> So this is just a "heads up". Please let us know if there are any concerns
> with that plan.
>
> Ralph & Jeff
> aka. Mutt & Jeff (for those of you old enough to remember that comic strip)
>
> No wait....that should be Ralph & the Mutt!

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