Well, does --disable-multi-threads disable progress threads?  And do you want 
to disable thread support in ORTE because you don't want MPI_THREAD_MULTIPLE?  
Perhaps a third option is a rational way to go?

Brain

On Feb 8, 2010, at 6:54 PM, Jeff Squyres wrote:

> How about 
> 
>  --enable-mpi-threads  ==>  --enable-multi-threads
>    ENABLE_MPI_THREADS  ==>    ENABLE_MULTI_THREADS
> 
> Essentially, s/mpi/multi/ig.  This gives us "progress thread" support and 
> "multi thread" support.  Similar, but different.
> 
> Another possibility instead of "mpi" could be "concurrent".
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Barrett, Brian W wrote:
> 
>> Jeff -
>> 
>> I think the idea is ok, but I think the name needs some thought.  There's 
>> currently two ways to have the lower layers be thread safe -- enabling MPI 
>> threads or progress threads.  The two can be done independently -- you can 
>> disable MPI threads and still enable thread support by enabling progress 
>> threads.
>> 
>> So either that behavior would need to change or we need a better name (in my 
>> opinion...).
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2010, at 8:53 PM, Jeff Squyres wrote:
>> 
>>> WHAT: Rename --enable-mpi-threads and ENABLE_MPI_THREADS to 
>>> --enable-thread-safety and ENABLE_THREAD_SAFETY, respectively 
>>> (--enable-mpi-threads will be maintained as a synonym to 
>>> --enable-thread-safety for backwards compat, of course).
>>> 
>>> WHY: Other projects are starting to use ORTE and OPAL without OMPI.  The 
>>> fact that thread safety in OPAL and ORTE requires a configure switch with 
>>> "mpi" in the name is very non-intuitive.
>>> 
>>> WHERE: A bunch of places in the code; see attached patch.
>>> 
>>> WHEN: Next Friday COB
>>> 
>>> TIMEOUT: COB, Friday, Feb 5, 2010
>>> 
>>> ------------------------
>>> 
>>> More details:
>>> 
>>> Cisco is starting to investigate using ORTE and OPAL in various threading 
>>> scenarios -- without the OMPI layer.  The fact that you need to enable 
>>> thread safety in ORTE/OPAL with a configure switch that has the word "mpi" 
>>> in it is extremely counter-intuitive (it bit some of our engineers very 
>>> badly, and they were mighty annoyed!!).
>>> 
>>> Since this functionality actually has nothing to do with MPI (it's actually 
>>> the other way around -- MPI_THREAD_MULTIPLE needs this functionality), we 
>>> really should rename this switch and the corresponding AC_DEFINE -- I 
>>> suggest:
>>> 
>>> --enable|disable-thread-safety
>>> ENABLE_THREAD_SAFETY
>>> 
>>> Of course, we need to keep the configure switch 
>>> "--enable|disable-mpi-threads" for backwards compatibility, so that can be 
>>> a synonym to --enable-thread-safety.
>>> 
>>> See the attached patch (the biggest change is in 
>>> opal/config/opal_config_threads.m4).  If there are no objections, I'll 
>>> commit this next Friday COB.
>>> 
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