On Mar 29, 2010, at 9:16 PM, Ralph Castain wrote:


On Mar 29, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Abhishek Kulkarni wrote:



On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Sylvain Jeaugey wrote:

Hi Ralph,

For now, I think that yes, this is a unique identifier. However, in my opinion, this could be improved in the future replacing it by a unique string.

Something like :

#define ORTE_NOTIFIER_DEFINE_EVENT(eventstr, associated_text) {
         static int event = -1;
         if (OPAL_UNLIKELY(event == -1) {
                event = opal_sos_create_new_event(eventstr, associated_text);
         }
         ...<increase event counter>...
}

This would move the event numbering to the OPAL layer, making it transparent to the developper.


This is a good suggestion, but then I think we end up relying on run-time generation of the event numbers and have to pay the extra cost of looking up the event in a list/array/hash each time we log the event.

Since it is -solely- intended to be in an error path, I fail to see the concern here.

My bad. Clearly I misunderstood here -- mostly because I vaguely remember (from [1]) that the original motivation was to put conditional #ifdef'd hooks in the "fast path" as well. But if they ought to be on the "slow path", I think it would be fair enough to consider Sylvain's suggestion of pushing the event numbering to SOS. In that, the SOS hashtable could map the notifier events to their unique identifier and the threshold counter itself could be
encoded inside the identifier returned by SOS.

[1] http://www.open-mpi.org/community/lists/devel/2009/05/6132.php



From what I understand, and from the discussions that took place when this
proposal was first put up on the devel list, is that since the event tracing hooks could lie in the critical path, we want the overhead to be as low as possible. By manually defining the unique identifiers, we can generate the event tracing macro at compile- time and have a minimal tracing impact.

Surely you jest - yes?? The event tracing hooks should -never- be in the critical path. The notifier is intended -solely- to be called when an error (or some other critical event) has already been detected. The idea was that we detect an error, and then (if selected) notify someone about it.

The last thing we want to do, IMHO, is put the notifier in a critical path. If we do, I personally will regret having created it :-)



My 2ยข ofcourse.

Thanks
Abhishek

Just my 2 cents ...

Sylvain

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Ralph Castain wrote:

Hi Abhishek
I'm confused by the WDC wiki page, specifically the part about the
new ORTE_NOTIFIER_DEFINE_EVENT macro. Are you saying
that I (as the developer) have to provide this macro with a unique
notifier id? So that would mean that ORTE/OMPI would
have to maintain a global notifier id counter to ensure it is unique?

If so, that seems really cumbersome. Could you please clarify?

Thanks
Ralph

On Mar 29, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Abhishek Kulkarni wrote:

= = = ===================================================================
     [RFC 1/2]
= = = ===================================================================

WHAT: Merge improvements to the "notifier" framework from the OPAL
     SOS
         and the ORTE WDC mercurial branches into the SVN trunk.

WHY: Some improvements and interface changes were put into the ORTE notifier framework during the development of the OPAL SOS[1] and
        ORTE WDC[2] branches.

WHERE: Mostly restricted to ORTE notifier files and files using the
          notifier interface in OMPI.

     TIMEOUT: The weekend of April 2-3.

     REFERENCE MERCURIAL REPOS:
     * SOS development: http://bitbucket.org/jsquyres/opal-sos-fixed/
* WDC development: http://bitbucket.org/derbeyn/orte-wdc- fixed/

= = = ===================================================================

     BACKGROUND:

     The notifier interface and its components underwent a host of
improvements and changes during the development of the SOS[1] and
     the
WDC[2] branches. The ORTE WDC (Warning Data Capture) branch enables accounting of events through the use of notifier interface, whereas OPAL SOS uses the notifier interface by setting up callbacks to
     relay
     out logged events.

     Some of the improvements include:

     - added more severity levels.
     - "ftb" notifier improvements.
     - "command" notifier improvements.
     - added "file" notifier component
     - changes in the notifier modules selection
     - activate only a subset of the callbacks
     (i.e. any combination of log, help, log_peer)
     - define different output media for any given callback (e.g.
     log_peer
can be redirected to the syslog and smtp, while the show_help can be
     sent to the hnp).
- ORTE_NOTIFIER_LOG_EVENT() (that accounts and warns about unusual
     events)

     Much more information is available on these two wiki pages:

     [1] http://svn.open-mpi.org/trac/ompi/wiki/ErrorMessages
     [2] http://svn.open-mpi.org/trac/ompi/wiki/ORTEWDC

     NOTE: This is first of a two-part RFC to bring the SOS and WDC
     branches
to the trunk. This only brings in the "notifier" changes from the
     SOS
branch, while the rest of the branch will be brought over after the
     timeout of the second RFC.

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