Way too much hands waving here.

When you say certain networks you mean TCP and potentially SM. However, I doubt 
even TCP can be fully supported. Not without the preconnect option … or a mean 
to update the modes information.

  george.

On Oct 7, 2011, at 14:56 , Josh Hursey wrote:

>> From what I have seen during development, this RFC integrates the MTCP
> single process checkpointer into the C/R infrastructure of Open MPI.
> The MTCP component of the DMTCP project can be used in insolation,
> which is what they are integrating. So they can use DMTCP to
> checkpoint/restart an unmodified Open MPI, but only over certain
> networks. By integrating the MTCP checkpointer as a CRS component they
> use Open MPI to coordinate across processes, and gain support for a
> larger number of networks (e.g., IB, MX).
> 
> Alex, does that sound about right?
> 
> -- Josh
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:33 PM, George Bosilca <bosi...@eecs.utk.edu> wrote:
>> Alex,
>> 
>> It looks like there is a mismatch between what you propose to achieve and 
>> the text in your RFC. You propose to add a new single-process 
>> checkpoint-restart mechanism (MTCP), to the ones already provided in Open 
>> MPI. However, most of the text in your RFC is about DMTCP, which is another 
>> layer on top of MTCP capable of checkpoint/restarting distributed 
>> application.
>> 
>> I would like to understand what this RFC is really about: MTCP or DMTCP?
>> 
>>  george.
>> 
>> On Oct 6, 2011, at 02:58 , Alex Brick wrote:
>> 
>>> WHAT: Bring in the mtcp CRS component
>>> 
>>> WHY: Add support for the MTCP checkpoint/restart service
>>> 
>>> WHERE: opal/mca/crs/mtcp
>>> 
>>> TIMEOUT: Tuesday teleconf, 2011-10-18 (about 2 weeks from now)
>>> 
>>> -------------------------------------------
>>> What is MTCP?
>>> 
>>> DMTCP (Distributed MultiThreaded CheckPointing, 
>>> http://dmtcp.sourceforge.net) is a mature open source (LGPL) checkpointing 
>>> package that has been under development for seven years. It operates 
>>> entirely in user space, with no kernel modules, or modifications to the 
>>> target application.  If used in the simplest possible way, it works as:
>>> 
>>> dmtcp_checkpoint ./a.out
>>> dmtcp_command --checkpoint
>>> dmtcp_restart ckpt_a.out_*.dmtcp
>>> 
>>> DMTCP is contagious.  Any calls to fork(), pthread_create(), or "ssh",
>>> are recognized by DMTCP, and it maintains those threads, and local and
>>> remote processes under checkpoint control.  At checkpoint time, it also
>>> generates a script, dmtcp_restart_script.sh, that can restart a distributed 
>>> computation.  As a sign of its maturity, it can also checkpoint Open MPI 
>>> "from on top":  dmtcp_checkpoint mpirun hello_mpi
>>> 
>>> The MTCP component of DMTCP is the single-process component.  It is used
>>> both internally by DMTCP as well as directly by users only interested in
>>> checkpointing a single process.  This second feature was used in order to 
>>> develop an Open MPI module for the Open MPI checkpoint-restart service 
>>> similar to BLCR, except that no kernel modules are required.
>>> 
>>> DMTCP is currently a Debian package (Debian testing), and is planned also 
>>> for Fedora and openSuSe.  These packages also provide the MTCP component 
>>> for Open MPI.
>>> 
>>> -------------------------------------------
>>> More details:
>>> 
>>> Open MPI MTCP integration implementation available at:
>>> 
>>>  https://bitbucket.org/jsquyres/ompi-dmtcp2
>>> 
>>> The DMTCP parent project website is below:
>>> 
>>>  http://dmtcp.sourceforge.net/
>>> 
>>> The Distributed MultiThreaded CheckPointing (DMTCP) Project supports 
>>> user-level, transparent checkpoint/restart of a variety of sequential and 
>>> parallel programs.  In Open MPI terms, this contribution is an alternative 
>>> to the BLCR CRS module, meaning that users can use DMTCP to checkpoint 
>>> their applications instead of BLCR.
>>> 
>>> The MTCP component is currently restricted to supporting communication over 
>>> sockets and shared memory.  In an effort to support a wider range of 
>>> networks (e.g., InfiniBand, Myrinet), they have created a CRS component to 
>>> hook into Open MPI's checkpoint/restart infrastructure. The MTCP user-level 
>>> checkpoint/restart service is the single process checkpoint kernel of the 
>>> DMTCP project.  The MTCP kernel is what is used in the mtcp CRS component.
>>> 
>>> Jeff Squyres and Josh Hursey have been working with the DMTCP authors 
>>> (based out of the US Northeastern University in Boston, MA, USA) for quite 
>>> a while and feel that this component is ready to be brought into the Open 
>>> MPI main line for inclusion in the 1.7.x series (and possibly the 1.5.x 
>>> series?).  The authors have submitted OMPI 3rd party contribution 
>>> agreements.
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