So this was slightly different than the opinion that was discussed on the call 
today, which was 2.  The rationale for #2 was to punish developers, but if such 
a bug did make it through to production, users wouldn't be annoyed with 
show_help messages all the time.

Does anyone have strong opinions here?  I don't.

I offer the following two points:

- this is a coding error on the OMPI developer
- it's pretty rare



On Nov 1, 2011, at 7:30 PM, George Bosilca wrote:

> 1
> 
>  george.
> 
> On Nov 1, 2011, at 17:23 , Jeff Squyres wrote:
> 
>> Can you clarify -- I can parse your text multiple ways.  Which are you 
>> voting for?
>> 
>> 1. show_help + return error code in all cases.
>> 2. if OPAL_ENABLE_DEBUG, show_help + exit(1), else silently return error 
>> code.
>> 3. show_help.  if OPAL_ENABLE_DEBUG, exit(1), else return error code.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 1, 2011, at 4:50 PM, George Bosilca wrote:
>> 
>>> This is a much saner solution. We [mostly] stayed away from calling exit 
>>> deep into our libraries, there is no reason to add it now. I'll vote in 
>>> favor of show_help + return code.
>>> 
>>> george.
>>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2011, at 15:14 , Jeff Squyres wrote:
>>> 
>>>> We talked about this on the call today.
>>>> 
>>>> A good suggestion was made: call show_help/opal_finalize/exit only when 
>>>> OPAL_ENABLE_DEBUG is true.  Otherwise, return an error code.
>>>> 
>>>> If no one objects to this, I'll commit this tomorrow.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 31, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Jeff Squyres wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> WHAT: what to do if registering an MCA param results in an error?
>>>>> 
>>>>> WHERE: opal/mca/base/mca_base_param.c
>>>>> 
>>>>> WHY: MCA param re-registration issues should be treated as OMPI developer 
>>>>> errors
>>>>> 
>>>>> WHEN: COB Friday, 4 Nov 2011
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Short version: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Re-registering an MCA param to be a different type (e.g., it was 
>>>>> initially registered to be a string, but was later re-registered to be an 
>>>>> int) should be treated as an OMPI developer error, and should 
>>>>> opal_finalize()/exit(1).
>>>>> 
>>>>> More details:
>>>>> 
>>>>> A mistaken MCA param re-registration recently caused an orted segv.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The MCA param subsystem was fixed to avoid this segv, but silently 
>>>>> convert the MCA param to the newly-registered type.  Upon reflection and 
>>>>> some discussion, this seems to be a bad idea.  Instead, we should loudly 
>>>>> complain via a show_help message and then exit(1).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Specifically: this kind of behavior is clearly an error and should be 
>>>>> fixed.  Unfortunately, in most cases, we don't actually check the return 
>>>>> value from MCA param registration functions, so if we change the MCA 
>>>>> param function to simply return a non OPAL_SUCCESS status, it's unlikely 
>>>>> that anyone will notice until some code tries to read the param value, 
>>>>> likely still resulting in a segv.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does anyone have heartburn if I change the error behavior to 
>>>>> opal_finalize()/exit(1)?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
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