On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 09:13:01AM -0700, Ralph Castain wrote:
> 
> On Jun 11, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Nathan Hjelm <hje...@lanl.gov> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 06:53:36PM +0200, George Bosilca wrote:
> >> 
> >> On Jun 10, 2013, at 17:18 , Nathan Hjelm <hje...@lanl.gov> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 12:28:02PM +0200, George Bosilca wrote:
> >>>> All Windows objects that are managed as HANDLES can easily be modified 
> >>>> to have static initializer. A clean solution is attached to the question 
> >>>> at stackoverflow:
> >>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3555859/is-it-possible-to-do-static-initialization-of-mutexes-in-windows
> >>> 
> >>> Not the cleanest solution (and I don't know how handles work) so I held 
> >>> off on proposing adding a static initializer until the windows code was 
> >>> gone.
> >> 
> >> Nothing really fancy, a HANDLE is basically an untyped location storage (a 
> >> void*).
> >> 
> >>>> That being said I think having a static initializer for a 
> >>>> synchronization object is a dangerous thing. It has many subtleties and 
> >>>> too many hidden limitations. As an example they can only be used on the 
> >>>> declaration of the object, and can't be safely used for locally static 
> >>>> object (they must be global).
> >>> 
> >>> I have never seen any indication that a statically initialized mutex is 
> >>> not safe for static objecs. The man page for thread_mutex_init uses the 
> >>> static initializer on a static mutex: 
> >>> http://linux.die.net/man/3/pthread_mutex_init
> >> 
> >> It is thread safe for global static objects, but might not be thread safe 
> >> for local static objects.
> >> 
> >>>> What are the instances in the Open MPI code where such a statically 
> >>>> defined mutex need to be used before it has a chance of being correctly 
> >>>> initialized?
> >>> 
> >>> MPI_T_thread_init may be called from any thread (or multiple threads at 
> >>> the same time). The current code uses atomics to protect the 
> >>> initialization of the mutex. I would prefer to declare the mpit lock like:
> >>> 
> >>> opal_mutex_t mpit_big_lock = OPAL_MUTEX_STATIC_INIT;
> >>> 
> >>> and remove the atomics. It would be much cleaner and should work fine on 
> >>> all currently supported platforms.
> >> 
> >> OK, almost a corner-case.
> >> 
> >>> how does mutex static initializer works
> >> 
> >> A more detailed explanation in the "Static Initializers for Mutexes and 
> >> Condition Variables" part of the 
> >> http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/pthread_mutex_init.html
> > 
> > Interesting. We could add a caveat to the definition describing where 
> > static initialization might not be optimal. Either that or we could 
> > implement a opal_once to do the initialization in this case. I would have 
> > to look into the solaris thread case to see if a once function is possible 
> > there.
> 
> We don't support solaris threads any more - haven't for quite some time.

If that is the case would there be any objection to the removal of the solaris 
thread code from opal_mutex?

-Nathan

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