Hmmm....I'll have to ponder this one. Regardless, it doesn't belong in the
1.8 series as it isn't a bug fix.

Meanwhile, let's table it until Jeff returns next week and discuss it at
the weekly telecon. It just seems bothersome that we now have two
orthogonal ways of specifying the same thing - this is something we really,
really try hard to avoid as it confuses the heck out of users, and I'm not
convinced it was necessary here.




On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Mike Dubman <mi...@dev.mellanox.co.il>wrote:

> mca param file treats any key=val as mca parameter only.
> In order to add parser support for something that is not mca param, will
> require change file syntax and it will look bad, i.e.:
>
> mca btl = sm,self,openib
> env DISPLAY = console:0
>
> I think the current implementation is less intrusive and re-uses existing
> infra in the most elegant way.
> The param file syntax change is too big effort to justify this feature
> (IMHO) which can be provided with existing infra w/o breaking anything.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:04 AM, Ralph Castain <r...@open-mpi.org> wrote:
>
>> Understood - my point, however, was that we can easily add that
>> capability to the mca params file.. This would seem far preferable to
>> creating a completely new, parallel way of setting envars.
>>
>> Why not do it that way?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Mike Dubman <mi...@dev.mellanox.co.il>wrote:
>>
>>> The "-x var=val" cannot be placed into mca params file.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Mike Dubman <mi...@dev.mellanox.co.il>wrote:
>>>
>>>> yes, it is expected that the "string" value should be quoted. will
>>>> clarify it in the help message and man page. Thanks for spotting.
>>>>
>>>> The underlying libraries used from OMPI
>>>> (mxm,psm,hcoll,glibc,pmi2,slurm,...) all have shell environment variables
>>>> to control their behave.
>>>>
>>>> It is unreasonable to expose mca parameter for every library tunable
>>>> used from ompi, but for most frequently used ones.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:23 AM, Ralph Castain <r...@open-mpi.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you are expecting the user to put quotes around the string, then
>>>>> you better tell them that in the help message. Otherwise, they would do
>>>>> what I did - simply list the envars with a space in-between, and 
>>>>> everything
>>>>> fails.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, you need to update mpirun.1in to reflect this new option or else
>>>>> nobody will know about it :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> However, looking at your example leaves me totally puzzled. Why are
>>>>> these not just MCA params to begin with, in which case we don't need
>>>>> another duplicate mechanism for setting them?
>>>>>
>>>>> We should only be setting envars that have nothing to do with OMPI,
>>>>> not setting OMPI-related envars - anything OMPI related is supposed to be
>>>>> an MCA param.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Mike Dubman <mi...@dev.mellanox.co.il
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  not sure what you mean, could you please provide example?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> comma is used often as part of the value, here is a example:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -mca base_env_list "HCOLL_BCOL=basesmuma,mlnx_p2p HCOLL_SBGP=
>>>>>> basesmuma,p2p HCOLL_ML_USE_KNOMIAL_ALLREDUCE=1"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:12 AM, Ralph Castain <r...@open-mpi.org>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This change just looks wrong - you can't split the variables on a
>>>>>>> "space" as there is no way to know how many variables there might be, 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> thus how to parse the rest of the cmd line. At best, you need a
>>>>>>> comma-delimited list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please fix this!
>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:14 PM, <svn-commit-mai...@open-mpi.org>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Author: miked (Mike Dubman)
>>>>>>>> Date: 2014-04-01 17:14:31 EDT (Tue, 01 Apr 2014)
>>>>>>>> New Revision: 31302
>>>>>>>> URL: https://svn.open-mpi.org/trac/ompi/changeset/31302
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>>>> opal: add mca param to control ranks env variables
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> add -mca base_env_list "var1=val1 var2=val2 ..." mca parameter that
>>>>>>>> can be used in mca param files
>>>>>>>> or with -am app.conf mpirun commandline to set rank env variables
>>>>>>>> with mca mechanism
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> fixed by Elena, reviewed by Miked
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cmr=v1.8.1:reviewer=ompi-rm1.8
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Text files modified:
>>>>>>>>    trunk/opal/mca/base/help-mca-var.txt |     5 +++++
>>>>>>>>    trunk/opal/mca/base/mca_base_var.c   |    36
>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>    trunk/opal/mca/base/mca_base_var.h   |     2 ++
>>>>>>>>    trunk/orte/tools/orterun/orterun.c   |     2 ++
>>>>>>>>    4 files changed, 45 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Modified: trunk/opal/mca/base/help-mca-var.txt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>>>> --- trunk/opal/mca/base/help-mca-var.txt        Tue Apr  1 16:57:12
>>>>>>>> 2014        (r31301)
>>>>>>>> +++ trunk/opal/mca/base/help-mca-var.txt        2014-04-01 17:14:31
>>>>>>>> EDT (Tue, 01 Apr 2014)      (r31302)
>>>>>>>> @@ -121,3 +121,8 @@
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Value:      %s
>>>>>>>>    Source:     %s
>>>>>>>> +#
>>>>>>>> +[incorrect-env-list-param]
>>>>>>>> +The format of mca_base_env_list parameter is incorrect. It should
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> +VAR1=VAL1 VAR2=VAL2 VAR3=VAL3 ...
>>>>>>>> +  Value:      %s
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Modified: trunk/opal/mca/base/mca_base_var.c
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>>>> --- trunk/opal/mca/base/mca_base_var.c  Tue Apr  1 16:57:12 2014
>>>>>>>>      (r31301)
>>>>>>>> +++ trunk/opal/mca/base/mca_base_var.c  2014-04-01 17:14:31 EDT
>>>>>>>> (Tue, 01 Apr 2014)      (r31302)
>>>>>>>> @@ -61,6 +61,7 @@
>>>>>>>>  static char *mca_base_var_override_file = NULL;
>>>>>>>>  static char *mca_base_var_file_prefix = NULL;
>>>>>>>>  static char *mca_base_param_file_path = NULL;
>>>>>>>> +static char *mca_base_env_list = NULL;
>>>>>>>>  static bool mca_base_var_suppress_override_warning = false;
>>>>>>>>  static opal_list_t mca_base_var_file_values;
>>>>>>>>  static opal_list_t mca_base_var_override_values;
>>>>>>>> @@ -259,6 +260,41 @@
>>>>>>>>      return OPAL_SUCCESS;
>>>>>>>>  }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +int mca_base_var_process_env_list(char ***context_env)
>>>>>>>> +{
>>>>>>>> +    int i, ret;
>>>>>>>> +    char** tokens;
>>>>>>>> +    char* ptr;
>>>>>>>> +    char* param, *value;
>>>>>>>> +    ret = mca_base_var_register ("opal", "mca", "base", "env_list",
>>>>>>>> +                                 "Set SHELL env variables",
>>>>>>>> +                                 MCA_BASE_VAR_TYPE_STRING, NULL,
>>>>>>>> 0, 0, OPAL_INFO_LVL_3,
>>>>>>>> +                                 MCA_BASE_VAR_SCOPE_READONLY,
>>>>>>>> &mca_base_env_list);
>>>>>>>> +    if ((0 > ret) || (NULL == mca_base_env_list)) {
>>>>>>>> +        return ret;
>>>>>>>> +    }
>>>>>>>> +    tokens = opal_argv_split(mca_base_env_list, ' ');
>>>>>>>> +    if (NULL != tokens) {
>>>>>>>> +        for (i = 0; NULL != tokens[i]; i++) {
>>>>>>>> +            if (NULL == (ptr = strchr(tokens[i], '='))) {
>>>>>>>> +                opal_show_help("help-mca-var.txt",
>>>>>>>> "incorrect-env-list-param",
>>>>>>>> +                        true, mca_base_env_list);
>>>>>>>> +                opal_argv_free(tokens);
>>>>>>>> +                return OPAL_ERROR;
>>>>>>>> +            } else {
>>>>>>>> +                param = strdup(tokens[i]);
>>>>>>>> +                value = strchr(param, '=');
>>>>>>>> +                *value = '\0';
>>>>>>>> +                value++;
>>>>>>>> +                opal_setenv(param, value, false, context_env);
>>>>>>>> +                free(param);
>>>>>>>> +            }
>>>>>>>> +        }
>>>>>>>> +        opal_argv_free(tokens);
>>>>>>>> +    }
>>>>>>>> +    return OPAL_SUCCESS;
>>>>>>>> +}
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>  static int mca_base_var_cache_files(bool rel_path_search)
>>>>>>>>  {
>>>>>>>>      char *tmp;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Modified: trunk/opal/mca/base/mca_base_var.h
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>>>> --- trunk/opal/mca/base/mca_base_var.h  Tue Apr  1 16:57:12 2014
>>>>>>>>      (r31301)
>>>>>>>> +++ trunk/opal/mca/base/mca_base_var.h  2014-04-01 17:14:31 EDT
>>>>>>>> (Tue, 01 Apr 2014)      (r31302)
>>>>>>>> @@ -716,6 +716,8 @@
>>>>>>>>   */
>>>>>>>>  OPAL_DECLSPEC int mca_base_var_dump(int vari, char ***out,
>>>>>>>> mca_base_var_dump_type_t output_type);
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +OPAL_DECLSPEC int mca_base_var_process_env_list(char
>>>>>>>> ***context_env);
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>  END_C_DECLS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  #endif /* OPAL_MCA_BASE_VAR_H */
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Modified: trunk/orte/tools/orterun/orterun.c
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>>>> --- trunk/orte/tools/orterun/orterun.c  Tue Apr  1 16:57:12 2014
>>>>>>>>      (r31301)
>>>>>>>> +++ trunk/orte/tools/orterun/orterun.c  2014-04-01 17:14:31 EDT
>>>>>>>> (Tue, 01 Apr 2014)      (r31302)
>>>>>>>> @@ -1628,6 +1628,8 @@
>>>>>>>>          goto cleanup;
>>>>>>>>      }
>>>>>>>>      mca_base_cmd_line_process_args(&cmd_line, app_env,
>>>>>>>> &global_mca_env);
>>>>>>>> +    mca_base_var_process_env_list(app_env);
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      /* Is there an appfile in here? */
>>>>>>>>
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