Hmmm...wouldn't that then require that you know (a) the other side is little 
endian, and (b) that you are on a big endian? Otherwise, you wind up with the 
same issue in reverse, yes?

In the ORTE methods, we explicitly set the fields (e.g., jobid = 
ntohl(remote-jobid)) to get around this problem. I missed that he did it by 
location instead of named fields - perhaps we should do that instead?


On Aug 5, 2014, at 10:06 AM, George Bosilca <bosi...@icl.utk.edu> wrote:

> Technically speaking, converting a 64 bits to a big endian representation 
> requires the swap of the 2 32 bits parts. So the correct approach would have 
> been:
> uint64_t htonll(uint64_t v)
> {
>     return ((((uint64_t)ntohl(n)) << 32 | (uint64_t)ntohl(n >> 32));
> }
> 
>   George.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Ralph Castain <r...@open-mpi.org> wrote:
> FWIW: that's exactly how we do it in ORTE
> 
> On Aug 4, 2014, at 10:25 PM, Gilles Gouaillardet 
> <gilles.gouaillar...@iferc.org> wrote:
> 
>> George,
>> 
>> i confirm there was a problem when running on an heterogeneous cluster,
>> this is now fixed in r32425.
>> 
>> i am not convinced i chose the most elegant way to achieve the desired 
>> result ...
>> could you please double check this commit ?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Gilles
>> 
>> On 2014/08/02 0:14, George Bosilca wrote:
>>> Gilles,
>>> 
>>> The design of the BTL move was to let the opal_process_name_t be agnostic 
>>> to what is stored inside, and all accesses should be done through the 
>>> provided accessors. Thus, big endian or little endian doesn’t make a 
>>> difference, as long as everything goes through the accessors.
>>> 
>>> I’m skeptical about the support of heterogeneous environments in the 
>>> current code, so I didn’t pay much attention to handling the case in the 
>>> TCP BTL. But in case we do care it is enough to make  the 2 macros point to 
>>> something meaningful instead of being empty (bswap_64 or something).
>>> 
>>>   George.
>>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2014, at 06:52 , Gilles Gouaillardet 
>>> <gilles.gouaillar...@iferc.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> George and Ralph,
>>>> 
>>>> i am very confused whether there is an issue or not.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> anyway, today Paul and i ran basic tests on big endian machines and did 
>>>> not face any issue related to big endianness.
>>>> 
>>>> so i made my homework, digged into the code, and basically, 
>>>> opal_process_name_t is used as an orte_process_name_t.
>>>> for example, in ompi_proc_init :
>>>> 
>>>> OMPI_CAST_ORTE_NAME(&proc->super.proc_name)->jobid = 
>>>> OMPI_PROC_MY_NAME->jobid;
>>>> OMPI_CAST_ORTE_NAME(&proc->super.proc_name)->vpid = i;
>>>> 
>>>> and with
>>>> 
>>>> #define OMPI_CAST_ORTE_NAME(a) ((orte_process_name_t*)(a))
>>>> 
>>>> so as long as an opal_process_name_t is used as an orte_process_name_t, 
>>>> there is no problem,
>>>> regardless the endianness of the homogenous cluster we are running on.
>>>> 
>>>> for the sake of readability (and for being pedantic too ;-) ) in r32357,
>>>> &proc_temp->super.proc_name 
>>>> could be replaced with
>>>> OMPI_CAST_ORTE_NAME(&proc_temp->super.proc_name) 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That being said, in btl/tcp, i noticed :
>>>> 
>>>> in mca_btl_tcp_component_recv_handler :
>>>> 
>>>>     opal_process_name_t guid;
>>>> [...]
>>>>     /* recv the process identifier */
>>>>     retval = recv(sd, (char *)&guid, sizeof(guid), 0);
>>>>     if(retval != sizeof(guid)) {
>>>>         CLOSE_THE_SOCKET(sd);
>>>>         return;
>>>>     }
>>>>     OPAL_PROCESS_NAME_NTOH(guid);
>>>> 
>>>> and in mca_btl_tcp_endpoint_send_connect_ack :
>>>> 
>>>>     /* send process identifier to remote endpoint */
>>>>     opal_process_name_t guid = btl_proc->proc_opal->proc_name;
>>>> 
>>>>     OPAL_PROCESS_NAME_HTON(guid);
>>>>     if(mca_btl_tcp_endpoint_send_blocking(btl_endpoint, &guid, 
>>>> sizeof(guid)) !=
>>>> 
>>>> and with
>>>> 
>>>> #define OPAL_PROCESS_NAME_NTOH(guid)
>>>> #define OPAL_PROCESS_NAME_HTON(guid)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> i had no time yet to test yet, but for now, i can only suspect :
>>>> - there will be an issue with the tcp btl on an heterogeneous cluster
>>>> - for this case, the fix is to have a different version of the 
>>>> OPAL_PROCESS_NAME_xTOy
>>>>   on little endian arch if heterogeneous mode is supported.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> does that make sense ?
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Gilles
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2014/07/31 1:29, George Bosilca wrote:
>>>>> The underlying structure changed, so a little bit of fiddling is normal.
>>>>> Instead of using a field in the ompi_proc_t you are now using a field down
>>>>> in opal_proc_t, a field that simply cannot have the same type as before
>>>>> (orte_process_name_t).
>>>>> 
>>>>>   George.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Ralph Castain <r...@open-mpi.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> George - my point was that we regularly tested using the method in that
>>>>>> routine, and now we have to do something a little different. So it is an
>>>>>> "issue" in that we have to make changes across the code base to ensure we
>>>>>> do things the "new" way, that's all
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2014, at 9:17 AM, George Bosilca <bosi...@icl.utk.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No, this is not going to be an issue if the opal_identifier_t is used
>>>>>> correctly (aka only via the exposed accessors).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   George.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Ralph Castain <r...@open-mpi.org> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yeah, my fix won't work for big endian machines - this is going to be an
>>>>>>> issue across the code base now, so we'll have to troll and fix it. I was
>>>>>>> doing the minimal change required to fix the trunk in the meantime.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2014, at 9:06 AM, George Bosilca <bosi...@icl.utk.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes. opal_process_name_t has basically no meaning by itself, it is a 64
>>>>>>> bits storage location used by the upper layer to save some local key 
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> can be later used to extract information. Calling the OPAL level compare
>>>>>>> function might be a better fit there.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   George.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Gilles Gouaillardet <
>>>>>>> gilles.gouaillar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ralph,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> was it really that simple ?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> proc_temp->super.proc_name has type opal_process_name_t :
>>>>>>>> typedef opal_identifier_t opal_process_name_t;
>>>>>>>> typedef uint64_t opal_identifier_t;
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> *but*
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> item_ptr->peer has type orte_process_name_t :
>>>>>>>> struct orte_process_name_t {
>>>>>>>>    orte_jobid_t jobid;
>>>>>>>>    orte_vpid_t vpid;
>>>>>>>> };
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> bottom line, is r32357 still valid on a big endian arch ?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Gilles
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Ralph Castain <r...@open-mpi.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I just fixed this one - all that was required was an ampersand as the
>>>>>>>>> name was being passed into the function instead of a pointer to the 
>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> r32357
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2014, at 7:43 AM, Gilles GOUAILLARDET <
>>>>>>>>> gilles.gouaillar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Rolf,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> r32353 can be seen as a suspect...
>>>>>>>>> Even if it is correct, it might have exposed the bug discussed in 
>>>>>>>>> #4815
>>>>>>>>> even more (e.g. we hit the bug 100% after the fix)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> does the attached patch to #4815 fixes the problem ?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If yes, and if you see this issue as a showstopper, feel free to 
>>>>>>>>> commit
>>>>>>>>> it and drop a note to #4815
>>>>>>>>> ( I am afk until tomorrow)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gilles
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Rolf vandeVaart <rvandeva...@nvidia.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Just an FYI that my trunk version (r32355) does not work at all 
>>>>>>>>> anymore
>>>>>>>>> if I do not include "--mca coll ^ml".    Here is a stack trace from 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> ibm/pt2pt/send test running on a single node.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> (gdb) where
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #0  0x00007f6c0d1321d0 in ?? ()
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #1  <signal handler called>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #2  0x00007f6c183abd52 in orte_util_compare_name_fields (fields=15
>>>>>>>>> '\017', name1=0x192350001, name2=0xbaf76c) at 
>>>>>>>>> ../../orte/util/name_fns.c:522
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #3  0x00007f6c0bea17be in bcol_basesmuma_smcm_allgather_connection
>>>>>>>>> (sm_bcol_module=0x7f6bf3b68040, module=0xb3d200, 
>>>>>>>>> peer_list=0x7f6c0c0a6748,
>>>>>>>>> back_files=0x7f6bf3ffd6c8,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>     comm=0x6037a0, input=..., base_fname=0x7f6c0bea2606
>>>>>>>>> "sm_payload_mem_", map_all=false) at
>>>>>>>>> ../../../../../ompi/mca/bcol/basesmuma/bcol_basesmuma_smcm.c:237
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #4  0x00007f6c0be98307 in bcol_basesmuma_bank_init_opti
>>>>>>>>> (payload_block=0xbc0f60, data_offset=64, bcol_module=0x7f6bf3b68040,
>>>>>>>>> reg_data=0xba28c0)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>     at
>>>>>>>>> ../../../../../ompi/mca/bcol/basesmuma/bcol_basesmuma_buf_mgmt.c:302
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #5  0x00007f6c0cced386 in mca_coll_ml_register_bcols
>>>>>>>>> (ml_module=0xba5c40) at 
>>>>>>>>> ../../../../../ompi/mca/coll/ml/coll_ml_module.c:510
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #6  0x00007f6c0cced68f in ml_module_memory_initialization
>>>>>>>>> (ml_module=0xba5c40) at 
>>>>>>>>> ../../../../../ompi/mca/coll/ml/coll_ml_module.c:558
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #7  0x00007f6c0ccf06b1 in ml_discover_hierarchy (ml_module=0xba5c40) 
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> ../../../../../ompi/mca/coll/ml/coll_ml_module.c:1539
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #8  0x00007f6c0ccf4e0b in mca_coll_ml_comm_query (comm=0x6037a0,
>>>>>>>>> priority=0x7fffe7991b58) at
>>>>>>>>> ../../../../../ompi/mca/coll/ml/coll_ml_module.c:2963
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #9  0x00007f6c18cc5b09 in query_2_0_0 (component=0x7f6c0cf50940,
>>>>>>>>> comm=0x6037a0, priority=0x7fffe7991b58, module=0x7fffe7991b90)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>     at ../../../../ompi/mca/coll/base/coll_base_comm_select.c:372
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #10 0x00007f6c18cc5ac8 in query (component=0x7f6c0cf50940,
>>>>>>>>> comm=0x6037a0, priority=0x7fffe7991b58, module=0x7fffe7991b90)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>     at ../../../../ompi/mca/coll/base/coll_base_comm_select.c:355
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #11 0x00007f6c18cc59d2 in check_one_component (comm=0x6037a0,
>>>>>>>>> component=0x7f6c0cf50940, module=0x7fffe7991b90)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>     at ../../../../ompi/mca/coll/base/coll_base_comm_select.c:317
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #12 0x00007f6c18cc5818 in check_components (components=0x7f6c18f46ef0,
>>>>>>>>> comm=0x6037a0) at 
>>>>>>>>> ../../../../ompi/mca/coll/base/coll_base_comm_select.c:281
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #13 0x00007f6c18cbe3c9 in mca_coll_base_comm_select (comm=0x6037a0) at
>>>>>>>>> ../../../../ompi/mca/coll/base/coll_base_comm_select.c:117
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #14 0x00007f6c18c52301 in ompi_mpi_init (argc=1, argv=0x7fffe79924c8,
>>>>>>>>> requested=0, provided=0x7fffe79922e8) at
>>>>>>>>> ../../ompi/runtime/ompi_mpi_init.c:918
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #15 0x00007f6c18c86e92 in PMPI_Init (argc=0x7fffe799234c,
>>>>>>>>> argv=0x7fffe7992340) at pinit.c:84
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #16 0x0000000000401056 in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fffe79924c8) at
>>>>>>>>> send.c:32
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> (gdb) up
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #1  <signal handler called>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> (gdb) up
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> #2  0x00007f6c183abd52 in orte_util_compare_name_fields (fields=15
>>>>>>>>> '\017', name1=0x192350001, name2=0xbaf76c) at 
>>>>>>>>> ../../orte/util/name_fns.c:522
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 522           if (name1->jobid < name2->jobid) {
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> (gdb) print name1
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> $1 = (const orte_process_name_t *) 0x192350001
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> (gdb) print *name1
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cannot access memory at address 0x192350001
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> (gdb) print name2
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> $2 = (const orte_process_name_t *) 0xbaf76c
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> (gdb) print *name2
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> $3 = {jobid = 2452946945, vpid = 1}
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> (gdb)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: devel [mailto:devel-boun...@open-mpi.org
>>>>>>>>> <devel-boun...@open-mpi.org>] On Behalf Of Gilles
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Gouaillardet
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 2:16 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Open MPI Developers
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OMPI devel] trunk compilation errors in jenkins
>>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>>> #4815 is indirectly related to the move :
>>>>>>>>>> in bcol/basesmuma, we used to compare ompi_process_name_t, and now
>>>>>>>>>> we (try to) compare an ompi_process_name_t and an opal_process_name_t
>>>>>>>>>> (which causes a glory SIGSEGV)
>>>>>>>>>> i proposed a temporary patch which is both broken and unelegant, 
>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> please advise a correct solution ?
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Gilles
>>>>>>>>>> On 2014/07/27 7:37, George Bosilca wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> If you have any issue with the move, I’ll be happy to help and/or
>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> you on your last move toward a completely generic BTL. To facilitate
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> work I exposed a minimalistic set of OMPI information at the OPAL
>>>>>>>>> level. Take
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> a look at opal/util/proc.h for more info, but please try not to 
>>>>>>>>>> expose
>>>>>>>>> more.
>>>>>>>>> 
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