I can't see how a user would know how to use such a thing - which mca params 
can absorb a concatenated value? Why would you take the last vs the first 
instead of just providing a value only once?


On Sep 9, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Mike Dubman <mi...@dev.mellanox.co.il> wrote:

> maybe we should have another MCA parameter to specify desired policy? 
> LAST,CONCAT,FIRST and let user select it?
> 
> basically, it is to mimic "setenv(var,val,overwrite)" behavior which is easy 
> to explain and good to have.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Ralph Castain <r...@open-mpi.org> wrote:
> WHAT:     Generate an error if the user provides duplicate MCA params on the 
> cmd line
> 
> WHY:       User confusion due to unexpected behavior
> 
> WHEN:     Tues, Sept 16 as this is a gating issue for 1.8.3 release
> 
> 
> In the beginning, OMPI would look at a cmd line for MCA params - if a param 
> was listed more than once, we would take the LAST value given and ignore all 
> the rest. At some point, this behavior was changed in 
> opal/mca/base/mca_base_cmd_line.c such that we concatenated the values into a 
> comma-delimited list. Unfortunately, the backend parser doesn't know how to 
> deal with such a list when converting the param to values such as INT or BOOL.
> 
> In r32686, I reverted the behavior back to the original one of taking the 
> LAST value. However, this can lead to unexpected behavior. For example, 
> consider the case where the user provides a cmd line containing the following:
> 
> ... -mca btl ^sm..... -mca btl openib.....
> 
> In this case, the result will be a setting of "btl=openib", and only the 
> openib BTL will be selected. If the user thought that all BTLs other than sm 
> were to be considered, this could be a surprise. Likewise, note that if the 
> order is reversed, the result would be "btl=^sm" - a completely different 
> behavior.
> 
> On the telecon, we couldn't think of any use-case where we would want the 
> last value or concatenating behaviors. Instead, there was consensus that we 
> should generate an error as the user is asking us to do conflicting things.
> 
> However, we acknowledged that we might not understand all the use-cases, so 
> we are issuing this as an RFC in case someone knows of a reason for the other 
> behaviors.
> 
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