LSF gives this, for example, over which we (LSF users) have no control.

rank 0=mach1 slot=0
rank 1=mach1 slot=4
rank 2=mach1 slot=8
rank 3=mach1 slot=12
rank 4=mach1 slot=16
rank 5=mach1 slot=20
rank 6=mach1 slot=24
rank 7=mach1 slot=28
rank 8=mach1 slot=32
rank 9=mach1 slot=36
rank 10=mach1 slot=40
rank 11=mach1 slot=44
rank 12=mach1 slot=1
rank 13=mach1 slot=5
rank 14=mach1 slot=9
rank 15=mach1 slot=13


I have also filed a service ticket with LSF to see if they can change to 
logical numbering etc.


In the meantime we have written a translator, but this is cluster, actually 
node, specific and should not be called a solution.  Running lstopo on the 
whole cluster found 2 nodes giving logical numbering and the rest giving 
physical.

Which is interesting in itself.  We find those 2 nodes having a newer bios 
level. Still investigating this...


thanks

tom


Tom Wurgler
Application Systems Principal
The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company
200 Innovation Way, Akron, OH  44316
phone.330.796.1656
twu...@goodyear.com





________________________________
From: devel <devel-boun...@open-mpi.org> on behalf of Ralph Castain 
<r...@open-mpi.org>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 1:16 PM
To: Open MPI Developers
Subject: Re: [OMPI devel] mpirun does not honor rankfile

I’ve been taking a look at this, and I believe I can get something implemented 
shortly. However, one problem I’ve encountered is that physical core indexes 
are NOT unique in many systems, e.g., x86 when hyperthreads are enabled. So you 
would have to specify socket:core in order to get a unique location. 
Alternatively, when hyperthreads are enabled, the physical hyperthread number 
is unique.

My question, therefore, is whether or not this is going to work for you? I 
don’t know what LSF is giving you - can you provide a socket:core, or a 
physical hyperthread number?


On Nov 6, 2014, at 8:34 AM, Ralph Castain 
<rhc.open...@gmail.com<mailto:rhc.open...@gmail.com>> wrote:

IIRC, you prefix the core number with a P to indicate physical

I’ll see what I can do about getting the physical notation re-implemented - 
just can’t promise when that will happen


On Nov 6, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Tom Wurgler 
<twu...@goodyear.com<mailto:twu...@goodyear.com>> wrote:

Well, unless we can get LSF to use physical numbering, we are dead in the water 
without a translator of some sort.

We are trying to figure how we can automate the translation in the meantime, 
but we have a mix of clusters and the mapping is different between them.

We daily use 1.6.4 openmpi (vs all this current testing has been with 1.8.3).  
In reading the 1.8.1 man page for mpirun, it states that

"Starting with Open MPI v1.7, all socket/core slot locations are be specified 
as logical indexes (the Open MPI v1.6 series used physical indexes)."

But testing using rankfiles with 1.6.4, it behaves like 1.8.3, ie using logical 
indexes.  Is there maybe a switch in 1.6.4 to use physical indexes?  I am not 
seeing it in the mpirun --help...
thanks







________________________________
From: devel <devel-boun...@open-mpi.org<mailto:devel-boun...@open-mpi.org>> on 
behalf of Ralph Castain <rhc.open...@gmail.com<mailto:rhc.open...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 11:08 AM
To: Open MPI Developers
Subject: Re: [OMPI devel] mpirun does not honor rankfile

Ugh….we used to have a switch for that purpose, but it became hard to manage 
the code. I could reimplement at some point, but it won’t be in the immediate 
future.

I gather the issue is that the system tools report physical numbering, and so 
you have to mentally translate to create the rankfile? Or is there an automated 
script you run to do the translation?

In other words, is it possible to simplify the translation in the interim? Or 
is this a show-stopper for you?


On Nov 6, 2014, at 7:21 AM, Tom Wurgler 
<twu...@goodyear.com<mailto:twu...@goodyear.com>> wrote:

So we used lstopo with a arg of "--logical" and the output showed the core 
numbering 0,1,2,3...47 instead of
0,4,8,12 etc.

The multiplying by 4 you speak of falls apart when you get to the second socket 
as its physical numbers are
1,5,9,13... and its logical is 12,13,14,15....

So the question is can we get mpirun to honor the physical numbering?

thanks!
tom

________________________________
From: devel <devel-boun...@open-mpi.org<mailto:devel-boun...@open-mpi.org>> on 
behalf of Ralph Castain <rhc.open...@gmail.com<mailto:rhc.open...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 6:30 PM
To: Open MPI Developers
Subject: Re: [OMPI devel] mpirun does not honor rankfile

I suspect the issue may be with physical vs logical numbering. As I said, we 
use logical numbering in the rankfile, not physical. So I’m not entirely sure 
how to translate the cpumask in your final table into the numbering shown in 
your rankfile listings. Is the cpumask showing a physical core number?

I ask because it sure looks like the logical numbering we use is getting 
multiplied by 4 to become the cpumask you show. If they logically number their 
cores by socket (i.e., core 0 is first core in first socket, core 1 is first 
core in second socket, etc.), then that would explain the output.


On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Tom Wurgler 
<twu...@goodyear.com<mailto:twu...@goodyear.com>> wrote:

Well, further investigation found this:

If I edit the rank file and change it like this:

before:
rank 0=mach1 slot=0
rank 1=mach1 slot=4
rank 2=mach1 slot=8
rank 3=mach1 slot=12
rank 4=mach1 slot=16
rank 5=mach1 slot=20
rank 6=mach1 slot=24
rank 7=mach1 slot=28
rank 8=mach1 slot=32
rank 9=mach1 slot=36
rank 10=mach1 slot=40
rank 11=mach1 slot=44
rank 12=mach1 slot=1
rank 13=mach1 slot=5
rank 14=mach1 slot=9
rank 15=mach1 slot=13

after:
rank 0=mach1 slot=0
rank 1=mach1 slot=1
rank 2=mach1 slot=2
rank 3=mach1 slot=3
rank 4=mach1 slot=4
rank 5=mach1 slot=5
rank 6=mach1 slot=6
rank 7=mach1 slot=7
rank 8=mach1 slot=8
rank 9=mach1 slot=9
rank 10=mach1 slot=10
rank 11=mach1 slot=11
rank 12=mach1 slot=12
rank 13=mach1 slot=13
rank 14=mach1 slot=14
rank 15=mach1 slot=15

It does what I expect:
  PID COMMAND         CPUMASK     TOTAL [     N0     N1     N2     N3     N4    
 N5     N6     N7 ]
12192 my_executable         0                   472.0M [ 472.0M     0      0    
  0      0      0      0      0  ]
12193 my_executable         4                   358.0M [ 358.0M     0      0    
  0      0      0      0      0  ]
12194 my_executable         8                   450.4M [ 450.4M     0      0    
  0      0      0      0      0  ]
12195 my_executable        12                  439.1M [ 439.1M     0      0     
 0      0      0      0      0  ]
12196 my_executable        16                  392.1M [ 392.1M     0      0     
 0      0      0      0      0  ]
12197 my_executable        20                  420.6M [ 420.6M     0      0     
 0      0      0      0      0  ]
12198 my_executable        24                  414.9M [     0  414.9M     0     
 0      0      0      0      0  ]
12199 my_executable        28                  388.9M [     0  388.9M     0     
 0      0      0      0      0  ]
12200 my_executable        32                  452.7M [     0  452.7M     0     
 0      0      0      0      0  ]
12201 my_executable        36                  438.9M [     0  438.9M     0     
 0      0      0      0      0  ]
12202 my_executable        40                  369.3M [     0  369.3M     0     
 0      0      0      0      0  ]
12203 my_executable        44                  440.5M [     0  440.5M     0     
 0      0      0      0      0  ]
12204 my_executable         1                   447.7M [     0      0  447.7M   
  0      0      0      0      0  ]
12205 my_executable         5                   367.1M [     0      0  367.1M   
  0      0      0      0      0  ]
12206 my_executable         9                   426.5M [     0      0  426.5M   
  0      0      0      0      0  ]
12207 my_executable        13                  414.2M [     0      0  414.2M    
 0      0      0      0      0  ]

We use hwloc 1.4 to generate a layout of the cores etc.

So either LSF created the wrong rankfile (via my config errors, most likely) or 
mpirun can't deal with that rankfile.

I can try the nightly tarball as well.  The hardware is 48 core AMD:  4 
sockets, 2 Numa nodes per socket with 6 cores each.

thanks
tom





________________________________
From: devel <devel-boun...@open-mpi.org<mailto:devel-boun...@open-mpi.org>> on 
behalf of Ralph Castain <rhc.open...@gmail.com<mailto:rhc.open...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 4:27 PM
To: Open MPI Developers
Subject: Re: [OMPI devel] mpirun does not honor rankfile

Hmmm…well, it seems to be working fine in 1.8.4rc1 (I only have 12 cores on my 
humble machine). However, I can’t test any interactions with LSF, though that 
shouldn’t be an issue:

$ mpirun -host bend001 -rf ./rankfile --report-bindings --display-devel-map 
hostname
 Data for JOB [60677,1] offset 0

 Mapper requested: NULL  Last mapper: rank_file  Mapping policy: BYUSER  
Ranking policy: SLOT
 Binding policy: CPUSET  Cpu set: NULL  PPR: NULL  Cpus-per-rank: 1
  Num new daemons: 0 New daemon starting vpid INVALID
  Num nodes: 1

 Data for node: bend001    Launch id: -1 State: 2
  Daemon: [[60677,0],0] Daemon launched: True
  Num slots: 12 Slots in use: 12    Oversubscribed: FALSE
  Num slots allocated: 12 Max slots: 0
  Username on node: NULL
  Num procs: 12 Next node_rank: 12
  Data for proc: [[60677,1],0]
  Pid: 0 Local rank: 0    Node rank: 0 App rank: 0
  State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind 
location: (null)  Binding: 0,12
  Data for proc: [[60677,1],1]
  Pid: 0 Local rank: 1    Node rank: 1 App rank: 1
  State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind 
location: (null)  Binding: 8,20
  Data for proc: [[60677,1],2]
  Pid: 0 Local rank: 2    Node rank: 2 App rank: 2
  State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind 
location: (null)  Binding: 5,17
  Data for proc: [[60677,1],3]
  Pid: 0 Local rank: 3    Node rank: 3 App rank: 3
  State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind 
location: (null)  Binding: 9,21
  Data for proc: [[60677,1],4]
  Pid: 0 Local rank: 4    Node rank: 4 App rank: 4
  State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind 
location: (null)  Binding: 11,23
  Data for proc: [[60677,1],5]
  Pid: 0 Local rank: 5    Node rank: 5 App rank: 5
  State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind 
location: (null)  Binding: 7,19
  Data for proc: [[60677,1],6]
  Pid: 0 Local rank: 6    Node rank: 6 App rank: 6
  State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind 
location: (null)  Binding: 3,15
  Data for proc: [[60677,1],7]
  Pid: 0 Local rank: 7    Node rank: 7 App rank: 7
  State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind 
location: (null)  Binding: 6,18
  Data for proc: [[60677,1],8]
  Pid: 0 Local rank: 8    Node rank: 8 App rank: 8
  State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind 
location: (null)  Binding: 2,14
  Data for proc: [[60677,1],9]
  Pid: 0 Local rank: 9    Node rank: 9 App rank: 9
  State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind 
location: (null)  Binding: 4,16
  Data for proc: [[60677,1],10]
  Pid: 0 Local rank: 10    Node rank: 10 App rank: 10
  State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind 
location: (null)  Binding: 10,22
  Data for proc: [[60677,1],11]
  Pid: 0 Local rank: 11    Node rank: 11 App rank: 11
  State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind 
location: (null)  Binding: 1,13
[bend001:24667] MCW rank 1 bound to socket 0[core 4[hwt 0-1]]: 
[../../../../BB/..][../../../../../..]
[bend001:24667] MCW rank 2 bound to socket 1[core 8[hwt 0-1]]: 
[../../../../../..][../../BB/../../..]
[bend001:24667] MCW rank 3 bound to socket 1[core 10[hwt 0-1]]: 
[../../../../../..][../../../../BB/..]
[bend001:24667] MCW rank 4 bound to socket 1[core 11[hwt 0-1]]: 
[../../../../../..][../../../../../BB]
[bend001:24667] MCW rank 5 bound to socket 1[core 9[hwt 0-1]]: 
[../../../../../..][../../../BB/../..]
[bend001:24667] MCW rank 6 bound to socket 1[core 7[hwt 0-1]]: 
[../../../../../..][../BB/../../../..]
[bend001:24667] MCW rank 7 bound to socket 0[core 3[hwt 0-1]]: 
[../../../BB/../..][../../../../../..]
[bend001:24667] MCW rank 8 bound to socket 0[core 1[hwt 0-1]]: 
[../BB/../../../..][../../../../../..]
[bend001:24667] MCW rank 9 bound to socket 0[core 2[hwt 0-1]]: 
[../../BB/../../..][../../../../../..]
[bend001:24667] MCW rank 10 bound to socket 0[core 5[hwt 0-1]]: 
[../../../../../BB][../../../../../..]
[bend001:24667] MCW rank 11 bound to socket 1[core 6[hwt 0-1]]: 
[../../../../../..][BB/../../../../..]
[bend001:24667] MCW rank 0 bound to socket 0[core 0[hwt 0-1]]: 
[BB/../../../../..][../../../../../..]

Can you try with the latest nightly 1.8 tarball?

http://www.open-mpi.org/nightly/v1.8/

Note that it is also possible that hwloc isn’t correctly identifying the cores 
here. Can you tell us something about the hardware? Do you have hardware 
threads enabled?

I ask because the binding being reported by us is the cpu numbers as identified 
by hwloc - which may not be the same you are expecting from some hardware 
vendor’s map. We are using logical processor assignments, not physical. You can 
use the —report-bindings option to show the resulting map, as above.



On Nov 5, 2014, at 7:21 AM, twu...@goodyear.com<mailto:twu...@goodyear.com> 
wrote:

I am using openmpi v 1.8.3 and LSF 9.1.3.

LSF creates a rankfile that looks like:

RANK_FILE:
======================================================================
rank 0=mach1 slot=0
rank 1=mach1 slot=4
rank 2=mach1 slot=8
rank 3=mach1 slot=12
rank 4=mach1 slot=16
rank 5=mach1 slot=20
rank 6=mach1 slot=24
rank 7=mach1 slot=28
rank 8=mach1 slot=32
rank 9=mach1 slot=36
rank 10=mach1 slot=40
rank 11=mach1 slot=44
rank 12=mach1 slot=1
rank 13=mach1 slot=5
rank 14=mach1 slot=9
rank 15=mach1 slot=13

which really are the cores I want to use, in order.

I logon to this machine and type (all on one line):

/apps/share/openmpi/1.8.3.I1217913/bin/mpirun \
 --mca orte_base_help_aggregate 0 \
 -v -display-devel-allocation \
 -display-devel-map \
 --rankfile RANK_FILE \
 --mca btl openib,tcp,sm,self \
 --x LD_LIBRARY_PATH \
 --np 16 \
 my_executable \
 -i model.i \
 -l model.o

And I get the following on the screen:

======================   ALLOCATED NODES   ======================
mach1: slots=16 max_slots=0 slots_inuse=0 state=UP
=================================================================
Data for JOB [52387,1] offset 0

Mapper requested: NULL  Last mapper: rank_file  Mapping policy: BYUSER  Ranking 
policy: SLOT
Binding policy: CPUSET  Cpu set: NULL  PPR: NULL  Cpus-per-rank: 1
Num new daemons: 0 New daemon starting vpid INVALID
Num nodes: 1

Data for node: mach1    Launch id: -1 State: 2
Daemon: [[52387,0],0] Daemon launched: True
Num slots: 16 Slots in use: 16    Oversubscribed: FALSE
Num slots allocated: 16 Max slots: 0
Username on node: NULL
Num procs: 16 Next node_rank: 16
Data for proc: [[52387,1],0]
Pid: 0 Local rank: 0    Node rank: 0 App rank: 0
State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind location: 
(null)  Binding: 0
Data for proc: [[52387,1],1]
Pid: 0 Local rank: 1    Node rank: 1 App rank: 1
State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind location: 
(null)  Binding: 16
Data for proc: [[52387,1],2]
Pid: 0 Local rank: 2    Node rank: 2 App rank: 2
State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind location: 
(null)  Binding: 32
Data for proc: [[52387,1],3]
Pid: 0 Local rank: 3    Node rank: 3 App rank: 3
State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind location: 
(null)  Binding: 1
Data for proc: [[52387,1],4]
Pid: 0 Local rank: 4    Node rank: 4 App rank: 4
State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind location: 
(null)  Binding: 17
Data for proc: [[52387,1],5]
Pid: 0 Local rank: 5    Node rank: 5 App rank: 5
State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind location: 
(null)  Binding: 33
Data for proc: [[52387,1],6]
Pid: 0 Local rank: 6    Node rank: 6 App rank: 6
State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind location: 
(null)  Binding: 2
Data for proc: [[52387,1],7]
Pid: 0 Local rank: 7    Node rank: 7 App rank: 7
State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind location: 
(null)  Binding: 18
Data for proc: [[52387,1],8]
Pid: 0 Local rank: 8    Node rank: 8 App rank: 8
State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind location: 
(null)  Binding: 34
Data for proc: [[52387,1],9]
Pid: 0 Local rank: 9    Node rank: 9 App rank: 9
State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind location: 
(null)  Binding: 3
Data for proc: [[52387,1],10]
Pid: 0 Local rank: 10    Node rank: 10 App rank: 10
State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind location: 
(null)  Binding: 19
Data for proc: [[52387,1],11]
Pid: 0 Local rank: 11    Node rank: 11 App rank: 11
State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind location: 
(null)  Binding: 35
Data for proc: [[52387,1],12]
Pid: 0 Local rank: 12    Node rank: 12 App rank: 12
State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind location: 
(null)  Binding: 4
Data for proc: [[52387,1],13]
Pid: 0 Local rank: 13    Node rank: 13 App rank: 13
State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind location: 
(null)  Binding: 20
Data for proc: [[52387,1],14]
Pid: 0 Local rank: 14    Node rank: 14 App rank: 14
State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind location: 
(null)  Binding: 36
Data for proc: [[52387,1],15]
Pid: 0 Local rank: 15    Node rank: 15 App rank: 15
State: INITIALIZED Restarts: 0 App_context: 0 Locale: UNKNOWN    Bind location: 
(null)  Binding: 5

And a numa-map of the node shows:

 PID COMMAND         CPUMASK     TOTAL [     N0     N1     N2     N3     N4     
N5     N6     N7 ]
31044 my_executable         0    443.3M [ 443.3M     0      0      0      0     
 0      0      0  ]
31045 my_executable        16    459.7M [ 459.7M     0      0      0      0     
 0      0      0  ]
31046 my_executable        32    435.0M [     0  435.0M     0      0      0     
 0      0      0  ]
31047 my_executable         1    468.8M [     0      0  468.8M     0      0     
 0      0      0  ]
31048 my_executable        17    493.2M [     0      0  493.2M     0      0     
 0      0      0  ]
31049 my_executable        33    498.0M [     0      0      0  498.0M     0     
 0      0      0  ]
31050 my_executable         2    501.2M [     0      0      0      0  501.2M    
 0      0      0  ]
31051 my_executable        18    502.4M [     0      0      0      0  502.4M    
 0      0      0  ]
31052 my_executable        34    500.5M [     0      0      0      0      0  
500.5M     0      0  ]
31053 my_executable         3    515.6M [     0      0      0      0      0     
 0  515.6M     0  ]
31054 my_executable        19    508.1M [     0      0      0      0      0     
 0  508.1M     0  ]
31055 my_executable        35    503.9M [     0      0      0      0      0     
 0      0  503.9M ]
31056 my_executable         4    502.1M [ 502.1M     0      0      0      0     
 0      0      0  ]
31057 my_executable        20    515.2M [ 515.2M     0      0      0      0     
 0      0      0  ]
31058 my_executable        36    508.1M [     0  508.1M     0      0      0     
 0      0      0  ]
31059 my_executable         5    446.7M [     0      0  446.7M     0      0     
 0      0      0  ]
--

Why didn't mpirun honor the ranfile and put the processes on the correct cores 
in
the proper order?  It looks to me like mpirun doesn't like the rankfile...??

Thanks for any help.

Tom
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