Hi Gilles,

No, it is not a problem for my applications.

I would have assumed, that both are using a pipe to orted+tty or whatever 
infrastructure is used.
Different behaviour is for me often a sign that something is going wrong. So 
better ask. ;)

Regards
CHrsitoph

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gilles Gouaillardet" <[email protected]>
To: "Open MPI Developers" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 3:28:12 PM
Subject: Re: [OMPI devel] stdout,       stderr reporting different values for 
isatty

Christoph, 

that is correct 
stdout is a tty and stderr is not. 
it is a pipe to orted. 
I do not think that would be hard to change. 
is this a source of problem for your applications ? 

note this kind of behavior can be caused by the batch manager. 
if you use slurm and srun instead of mpirun, I am not even sure stdout is a 
tty. 

Cheers, 

Gilles 

On Monday, July 27, 2015, Christoph Niethammer < [email protected] > wrote: 


Hello, 

I know, using stdout and stderr within MPI programs is in no way good. 
Nevertheless I found that - and now wonder why - isatty inside an MPI program 
reports different values for stdout and stderr in Open MPI: 

# Running as non MPI program: 
./isatty-test 
[0/1] stdout FILENO: 1, TTY: 1 
[0/1] stderr FILENO: 2, TTY: 1 

# Running with Open MPI 1.8.7: 
mpirun -np 2 ./isatty-test 
[1/2] stdout FILENO: 1, TTY: 1 
[1/2] stderr FILENO: 2, TTY: 0 
[0/2] stdout FILENO: 1, TTY: 1 
[0/2] stderr FILENO: 2, TTY: 0 

... not sure if this is good or bad. Both are forwarded correctly to the tty as 
far as I see... 

Redirecting stdout or stderr to files does not change anything in the Open MPI 
case. 

Best regards 
Christoph Niethammer 

PS: MPICH reports in all cases 0 for isatty() on stdout and stderr. 
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