Haters gotta hate. ;-) Kidding aside, ok, you make valid points. So -- no tm "addition". We just have to rely on people using functionality like "--with-tm" in the configure line to force/ensure that tm (or whatever feature) will actually get built.
> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Ralph Castain <r...@open-mpi.org> wrote: > > I think we would be opening a real can of worms with this idea. There are > environments, for example, that use PBSPro for one part of the system (e.g., > IO nodes), but something else for the compute section. > > Personally, I'd rather follow Howard's suggestion. > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Nathan Hjelm <hje...@lanl.gov> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 05:55:20PM +0000, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) wrote: > > Hmm. I'm of split mind here. > > > > I can see what Howard is saying here -- adding complexity is usually a bad > > thing. > > > > But we have gotten these problem reports multiple times over the years: > > someone *thinking* that they have built with launcher support X (e.g., TM, > > LSF), but then figuring out later that things aren't running as expected, > > and after a bunch of work, figure out that it's because they didn't build > > with support X. > > > > Gilles idea actually sounds interesting -- if the tm module detect some of > > the sentinel PBS/TM env variables, emit a show_help() if we don't have full > > TM support compiled in. This would actually save some users a bunch of > > time and frustration. > > > > --> Keep in mind that the SLRUM launcher is different, because it's all > > CLI-based (not API-based) and therefore we always build it (because we > > don't have to find headers and libraries). > > > > FWIW, we do have precedent of having extra MCA params for users to turn off > > warnings that they don't want to see. > > > > I guess the question here is: is there a valid use case for running in > > PBS/Torque and *not* wanting to use the TM launcher? > > Once case comes to mind. In the case of Cray systems that unfortunately > run Moab/Toque we can launch using either alps or torque (Howard correct > me if I am wrong). When Sam and I originally wrote the XE support we > used alps instead of torque. I am not entirely sure what we do now. > > -Nathan > > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list > de...@open-mpi.org > Subscription: http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/devel > Link to this post: > http://www.open-mpi.org/community/lists/devel/2016/01/18509.php > > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list > de...@open-mpi.org > Subscription: http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/devel > Link to this post: > http://www.open-mpi.org/community/lists/devel/2016/01/18510.php -- Jeff Squyres jsquy...@cisco.com For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/
