I see the goal for the project in helping with the correct structure and practices from the very beginning.
IMHO one minuscule C++ object integrated into QML can improve HelloWorld if: 1. It sits inside a properly structured C++ part of a project 2. Has at least one unit-test located in the proper places 3. Common test script executed both QML and C++ test 4. C++ part is easily throwable away for those who want just QML .. and probably it should really be just an individual C++ class, building en engine library is beyond the scope. Or is it not? A C++ test lib on the other hand has to be a stand alone project. I did C++ Qt and mix of C++/QML code in the past, but mostly I am a QML person. If somebody with more experience on C++ chips in, it would've been great. Focus is, again, on promoting the proper structure and practices, so it'd be cool to have input from those who are into these. Cheers, Artem. On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Sven Putze <sailfish...@hardcodes.de> wrote: > Hi Artem and all, > > well, I don't have developed for Android yet and I don't intend to do so > :-) > Regarding this example, I was thinking if extending this one or create a > bigger one as 2nd dive-in option. In such a bigger approach one could > provide something like a Sailfish independent business model (the > calculator) and maybe a state machine (maybe even MSM from boost, which > would raise many question worth getting answered) that keeps track of the > actions that can be done to the model. This way we could provide a C++ > class that uses Q_PROPERTY but does know nothing about the model, just > drives the state machine and have more or less stupid QML files. As an > extra cherry on top a non blocking approach. > IMHO this would be a great learning experience, not just for new > SailfishOS developers. > > If this one or two example reach a more or less stable state, I could > contribute the needed QtCreator Wizards, so that every developer can just > start with a pre-organized code stub. > > BR. > Sven > > On 01.12.2013, at 12:42, artem.marche...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Hi Sven and all > > > > I was thinking similar myself and I am migrating too. Just from > Symbian-Meego-desktop Qt, not from iOS. And src/test folder structure is > standard in Qt world. It annoyed me a lot that I couldn't easily go to this > structure from the Creator wizard. > > > > Plus "just helloworld" encourages no-tests development. That is not my > dev style and I want to promote test-driven development and unit-testing. > > > > As for RPM folder, I was thinking where to put it and it was actually > moving between src and top level. It ended up in the top level, because it > is, well, a common thing for both src and test subprojects. Wikipedia > project that uses same template has even fake subpackage also for grabbing > files that annoy harbour check script (unused Qt Quick Test files from an > external submodule). > > > > That said i'd very happy if you fork a project and make it better > suitable for, say, Android people - the project is in public domain just > for that. You can even resell the template if u manage :) > > > > Cheers, > > Artem. > > > > From: Putze Sven > > Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 11:55 > > To: Sailfish OS Developers > > Reply To: Sailfish OS Developers > > Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] The missing HelloWorld. Wizard included > > > > Hi, > > > > one thing I am trying to wrap my head around is the usage of a project > for different devices/operating systems (why? because a living ecosystem > needs to attract more developers and those coming from other platforms will > come if they already use Qt or see a chance in switching to Qt but they > sure don't want a maintenance nightmare). IMHO something like the rpm > folder should go at least one directory level down, so one could > differentiate between the brands or operating systems at top level. But so > far any tests with rpm in another level broke apart. I am not sure if > something is hardcoded here or if I simply don't know where to look? > > In such an attempt I would rename the folder "src" to "sailfishos" or > something similar. > > > > What's your thoughts about that? > > > > BR. > > Sven > > > > > > On 30.11.2013, at 19:06, Artem Marchenko <artem.marche...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Hi All > > > > > > *Short version* > > > Go check this out and contribute corrections - > https://github.com/amarchen/helloworld-pro-sailfish > > > > > > *Long version* > > > "Just an app" templates make my heart cry. Changing them to the proper > structure is pain every time you go beyond "just a helloworld". > > > > > > So I created a Helloworld Pro for Sailfish. Something that has minimal > UI, but proper project structure and a couple of UI and non UI QML tests > (includes src, test folders, multipackage .yaml/spec, proper 86x86 icon, > etc) and passes harbour acceptance criteria (pending for now). > > > > > > And then I added a wizard script that renames everything to whatever > project name you like to help you get started with MyCoolApp instead of > helloworld-pro-sailfish > > > > > > Wizard is a bash script validated on Mac only, because that's the > platform I use. > > > > > > Similar scripts for Windows and other corrections/improvements (e.g. > adding simple app cover) are very welcome via pull requests. > > > > > > You will find the project at > https://github.com/amarchen/helloworld-pro-sailfish > > > > > > If you want to do more with QML testing that I greatly encourage, this > old presentation is still valid - > www.slideshare.net/AgileArtem/test-drivingqml-12941898 > > > > > > Enjoy! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Artem. > > > > > > -- > > > Artem Marchenko > > > http://agilesoftwaredevelopment.com > > > http://twitter.com/AgileArtem > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > > _______________________________________________ > > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > > _______________________________________________ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > -- Artem Marchenko http://agilesoftwaredevelopment.com http://twitter.com/AgileArtem
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