Gary E. Miller <g...@rellim.com>: > > 1. GPS outage length and frequencies are decreasing > > Don't care. If you need your NTP to work, you need to know it is working. > Otherwise failure are not noticed.
OK, the test for "know it is working" is: you have lock, or you had lock less than x seconds ago where x is a worst-case of your drift model to whatever confidence interfal you want to fix. > > 3. There's a lower bound below which outages don't matter; we may be > > there. > > I don't agree. I monitor all my services 24x7, and I do get NTP > problems in my logs. And you also said in recent mail that you don't work with the kind of hardware a serious autonomy-seeker would use. So *your* NTP problems are not determinative, though they could be useful input data for improving error-estimation techniques. > > Any given fixed accuracy target for deviation from UTC, combined with > > a maximum crystal drift rate, defines a longest tolerable GPS outage. > > Not the majority failure mode. That's an interesting statement. What *is*, in your experience, the dominant failure mode. > > We may already be at a technological place where GPS outages don't > > bust the tolerable-error budget, even with cheap hardware. If we > > aren't, we'll probably be there soon. > > We can't define a single tolerable error budget. We can provide some > ranges of options for the user. And that's exactly what I've been pushing towards - to develop some statistical modeling on the basis of which we can make estimates to whatever confidence bound the user wants to set as a parameter. -- <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>
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