while testing presence i have noticed that normal debian init script
stop often fails to immediately kill all openser processes.  for example
here two processes remain active:

7293 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/openser -f /etc/openser/openser.cfg
7297 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/openser -f /etc/openser/openser.cfg
7298 ?        Z      0:00 [openser] <defunct>
7299 ?        Z      0:00 [openser] <defunct>

they do disappear after a while, but stay long enough so that
/etc/init.d/openser restart cannot be used.  adding a couple of seconds
between stop and start is not long enough.

i have not experienced this without presence modules.

any explanation and cure?

-- juha

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