On 2010-05-13, at 09:04, James Bottomley wrote:
> This isn't necessarily true ... most drivers and filesystems have to
> know what type they're getting.  Often they have to do extra tricks to
> process vmalloc areas.  Conversely, large kmalloc areas are a very
> precious commodity: if a driver or filesystem can handle vmalloc for
> large allocations, it should: it's easier for us to expand the vmalloc
> area than to try to make page reclaim keep large contiguous areas ... I
> notice your proposed API does the exact opposite of this ... tries
> kmalloc first and then does vmalloc.
> 
> Given this policy problem, isn't it easier simply to hand craft the
> vmalloc fall back to kmalloc (or vice versa) in the driver than add this
> whole massive raft of APIs for it?

I know we wouldn't mind using large vmalloc allocations for e.g. per-group 
arrays in ext4 (allocated once per mount), but I'd always understood that using 
vmalloc for general purpose uses can have a significant impact because the 
vmalloc() engine has (had?) serious performance problems.  That means it is 
better performance-wise to have a wrapper function like this to switch between 
kmalloc() and vmalloc() based on the allocation size, but it makes the code 
ugly.  Having the wrapper in the kernel would at least identify the different 
places that are using this kind of workaround.

If the performance of vmalloc() has been improved in the last few years, then 
I'd be happy to just use vmalloc() all the time.  That said, vmalloc still 
isn't suitable for sub-page allocations, so if you have a variable-sized 
allocation that may be very small or very large the small allocations will 
waste a whole page and a wrapper is still needed, or vmalloc should be changed 
to call kmalloc/kfree for the sub-page allocations.

Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger
Lustre Technical Lead
Oracle Corporation Canada Inc.

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