moving the thread to [email protected] and changing the subject ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doron Fediuck" <[email protected]> > To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <[email protected]> > Cc: "Martin Polednik" <[email protected]>, "Greg Sheremeta" > <[email protected]>, "Martin Betak" > <[email protected]>, "Doron Fediuck" <[email protected]>, "sphoorti joglekar" > <[email protected]>, > [email protected], "Tomas Jelinek" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 10:51:04 AM > Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt > > Any reason not to take this thread to [email protected]?
no reason - moving > > On 10/02/15 11:01, Yair Zaslavsky wrote: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tomas Jelinek" <[email protected]> > > > To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <[email protected]> > > > Cc: "Martin Polednik" <[email protected]>, "Greg Sheremeta" > > > <[email protected]>, "Martin Betak" > > > <[email protected]>, "Doron Fediuck" <[email protected]>, "sphoorti > > > joglekar" <[email protected]>, > > > [email protected] > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 10:05:47 AM > > > Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <[email protected]> > > >> To: "Tomas Jelinek" <[email protected]> > > >> Cc: "Martin Polednik" <[email protected]>, "Greg Sheremeta" > > >> <[email protected]>, "Martin Betak" > > >> <[email protected]>, "Doron Fediuck" <[email protected]>, "sphoorti > > >> joglekar" <[email protected]>, > > >> [email protected] > > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:50:31 AM > > >> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt > > >> > > >> Ok, so I'm waiting for some documentation on how I can start working on > > >> movirt > > > > > > good start is this - a step by step how to setup the devel env: > > > https://github.com/matobet/movirt > > > > > >> - i.e - I'm at my other in law's house - we have DSL modem + > > >> wireless network at home. > > >> I have Galaxy note S4, linux machine > > > > > > this is fine > > > > > >> + eclipse + android plugin. Now what? > > > > > > this is not :) eclipse has been pretty much abandoned by google and > > > setting > > > up the devel env in it is somewhere in between impossible and totally > > > impossible. > > > Just follow the description from the page above - you need the > > > http://tools.android.com/download/studio/canary/1-0-0 > > > > > > Than you can use this IDE to either open an emulator of the android > > > device > > > (if you have strong machine it is fine) or you can connect your phone > > > using > > > USB to the machine and > > > deploy movirt to it directly (it supports also remote debug, logs etc). > > > > > >> How can I "surf" from my mobile device to a local oVirt installation? > > > > > > so, if the machine with ovirt is connected to the wifi router and your > > > mobile > > > is connected to the same router, you are on the same network. So lets say > > > the engine's ip is: > > > 192.169.122.2 > > > and it is listening on https, than in movirt in settings page fill > > > something > > > like this: > > > https://192.169.122.2:443/ovirt-engine/api > > > and in the same settings pick "Disable HTTPS" to avoid to play with the > > > certs. > > > > > > Tomas > > > > I feel so ashamed now :) I should have realized by myself about the surfing > > part. This is similar to how my engine connects to my host at home :) > > > > > > > >> > > >> Cheers, > > >> Yair > > >> > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>> From: "Tomas Jelinek" <[email protected]> > > >>> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <[email protected]> > > >>> Cc: "Martin Polednik" <[email protected]>, "Greg Sheremeta" > > >>> <[email protected]>, "Martin Betak" > > >>> <[email protected]>, "Doron Fediuck" <[email protected]>, "sphoorti > > >>> joglekar" <[email protected]>, > > >>> [email protected] > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 9:39:14 AM > > >>> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>> From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <[email protected]> > > >>>> To: "Tomas Jelinek" <[email protected]> > > >>>> Cc: "Martin Polednik" <[email protected]>, "Greg Sheremeta" > > >>>> <[email protected]>, "Martin Betak" > > >>>> <[email protected]>, "Doron Fediuck" <[email protected]>, "sphoorti > > >>>> joglekar" <[email protected]>, > > >>>> [email protected] > > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 6:21:18 AM > > >>>> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>>> From: "Tomas Jelinek" <[email protected]> > > >>>>> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <[email protected]> > > >>>>> Cc: "Martin Polednik" <[email protected]>, "Greg Sheremeta" > > >>>>> <[email protected]>, "Martin Betak" > > >>>>> <[email protected]>, "Doron Fediuck" <[email protected]>, "sphoorti > > >>>>> joglekar" <[email protected]>, > > >>>>> [email protected] > > >>>>> Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 3:56:39 PM > > >>>>> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>>>> From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <[email protected]> > > >>>>>> To: "Martin Polednik" <[email protected]> > > >>>>>> Cc: "Tomas Jelinek" <[email protected]>, "Greg Sheremeta" > > >>>>>> <[email protected]>, "Martin Betak" > > >>>>>> <[email protected]>, "Doron Fediuck" <[email protected]>, "sphoorti > > >>>>>> joglekar" <[email protected]>, > > >>>>>> [email protected] > > >>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 2:31:08 PM > > >>>>>> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>>>>> From: "Martin Polednik" <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>> To: "Tomas Jelinek" <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>> Cc: "Yair Zaslavsky" <[email protected]>, "Greg Sheremeta" > > >>>>>>> <[email protected]>, "Martin Betak" > > >>>>>>> <[email protected]>, "Doron Fediuck" <[email protected]>, > > >>>>>>> "sphoorti > > >>>>>>> joglekar" <[email protected]>, > > >>>>>>> [email protected] > > >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 12:58:36 PM > > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>>>>>> From: "Tomas Jelinek" <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>>> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>>> Cc: "Greg Sheremeta" <[email protected]>, "Martin Betak" > > >>>>>>>> <[email protected]>, "Doron Fediuck" <[email protected]>, > > >>>>>>>> "sphoorti joglekar" <[email protected]>, "Martin > > >>>>>>>> Polednik" > > >>>>>>>> <[email protected]>, [email protected] > > >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 8:03:19 AM > > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> (adding martin and movirt list - rest inline) > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>>>>>>> From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>>>> To: "Greg Sheremeta" <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>>>> Cc: "Martin Betak" <[email protected]>, "Doron Fediuck" > > >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>, > > >>>>>>>>> "sphoorti joglekar" > > >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>, "Tomas Jelinek" > > >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 3:37:46 PM > > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>>>>>>>> From: "Greg Sheremeta" <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>>>>> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>>>>> Cc: "Martin Betak" <[email protected]>, "Doron Fediuck" > > >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>, > > >>>>>>>>>> "sphoorti joglekar" > > >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>, "Tomas Jelinek" > > >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 4:27:22 PM > > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>>>>>> To: "Martin Betak" <[email protected]>, "Greg Sheremeta" > > >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: "Doron Fediuck" <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 2:12:20 AM > > >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Some thoughts about moVirt > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. I will be glad to see a wiki page on how I can get > > >>>>>>>>>>> involved > > >>>>>>>>>>> with > > >>>>>>>>>>> moVirt. > > >>>>>>>>>>> For example, I have a new galaxy note4 phone. I will get > > >>>>>>>>>>> soon > > >>>>>>>>>>> a > > >>>>>>>>>>> "monster > > >>>>>>>>>>> machine" with 16 gigs, and some SSD, and 1 TB disk on it. > > >>>>>>>>>>> Ok, > > >>>>>>>>>>> I > > >>>>>>>>>>> can > > >>>>>>>>>>> install > > >>>>>>>>>>> ovirt all-in-one on it, now what? > > >>>>>>>>>>> I don't even know how to configure browsing via the > > >>>>>>>>>>> mobile > > >>>>>>>>>>> device > > >>>>>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>> my > > >>>>>>>>>>> home > > >>>>>>>>>>> network (i.e - access my mahcine) - yes, i know this is > > >>>>>>>>>>> not > > >>>>>>>>>>> a > > >>>>>>>>>>> "strictly > > >>>>>>>>>>> moVirt" problem, but if you provide this info it will > > >>>>>>>>>>> ease > > >>>>>>>>>>> others > > >>>>>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>> start > > >>>>>>>>>>> developing. I would like to know how I can start > > >>>>>>>>>>> contributing > > >>>>>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>> moVirt. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Maybe I missed it - what is the decision about the > > >>>>>>>>>>> technology? > > >>>>>>>>>>> Native > > >>>>>>>>>>> Java > > >>>>>>>>>>> ? Cordova? Something else? If native, maybe we should > > >>>>>>>>>>> encourage > > >>>>>>>>>>> somehow > > >>>>>>>>>>> others to start porting to IOS/ Windows Phone, etc? > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>>>>>>>> Yair > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Adding Sphoorti and Tomas, as they are running this show :) > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Oops, sorry for that. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> 1. 16 GB is not "monster" -- better put 32 or 64 in it :D > > >>>>>>>>>> I think Sphoorti has already worked on some documentation, > > >>>>>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>>> may > > >>>>>>>>>> have > > >>>>>>>>>> plans > > >>>>>>>>>> to do more? > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Yeah, so as I wrote down, if I have let's say some modem + > > >>>>>>>>> router > > >>>>>>>>> at > > >>>>>>>>> home, > > >>>>>>>>> how can I work against my "all-in-one" ovirt installation? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Well, if both your phone and your monster machine is connected > > >>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>> same > > >>>>>>>> router you are both on the same network. So if you can not see > > >>>>>>>> oVirt > > >>>>>>>> from > > >>>>>>>> mobile, there is some problem with firewall on the all-in-one. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On https://github.com/matobet/moVirt is the project page. It > > >>>>>>>> contains > > >>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>> sources, an unsigned build you can install to play with, some > > >>>>>>>> documentation > > >>>>>>>> on how to setup movirt and also how to setup the devel env. > > >>>>>>>> Ping us all the time if you have any issues setting it up. But > > >>>>>>>> please > > >>>>>>>> make > > >>>>>>>> sure you are using exactly the versions of everything as stated > > >>>>>>>> on > > >>>>>>>> wiki > > >>>>>>>> - > > >>>>>>>> any change in gradle or android-studio can have fatal > > >>>>>>>> consequences > > >>>>>>>> :D > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Connecting to your environment - well, you need to have access > > >>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>> engine's REST API from your phone. Than in the moVirt you just > > >>>>>>>> need > > >>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>> fill > > >>>>>>>> the API URL, name and password. > > >>>>>>>> Connecting securely using https is a bit tricky - you need to > > >>>>>>>> have > > >>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>> CA > > >>>>>>>> cert imported to your phone and connect to REST using the > > >>>>>>>> proper > > >>>>>>>> URL > > >>>>>>>> as > > >>>>>>>> stated in the cert. > > >>>>>>>> For devel env you can use the HTTPS and pick the "Disable > > >>>>>>>> HTTPS" > > >>>>>>>> - > > >>>>>>>> it > > >>>>>>>> will > > >>>>>>>> not check the cert and will work without proper url (e.g. with > > >>>>>>>> IP) > > >>>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>> without cert imported. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> 2. The decision was native Java. For now, afaik, iOS isn't > > >>>>>>>>>> being > > >>>>>>>>>> considered. > > >>>>>>>>>> Windows Phone is not popular, but it might be more popular > > >>>>>>>>>> among > > >>>>>>>>>> server > > >>>>>>>>>> admin types? Not sure. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Currently Android and surprisingly it works nice as-is on > > >>>>>>>> blackberry > > >>>>>>>> :) > > >>>>>>>> Even > > >>>>>>>> the devel env with debugger etc(!!!) > > >>>>>>>> Martin (Polednik) was considering to port it to iOS, not sure - > > >>>>>>>> Martin? > > >>>>>>>> Also a friend of Sphoorti (the current OPW intern) is very > > >>>>>>>> insterested > > >>>>>>>> in > > >>>>>>>> porting it to iOS as a different OPW. But this is very > > >>>>>>>> uncertain > > >>>>>>>> - > > >>>>>>>> not > > >>>>>>>> sure > > >>>>>>>> who could lead her and not sure about funding etc... > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Heya, > > >>>>>>> I'm looking into building native iOS oVirt app, so far I've > > >>>>>>> started > > >>>>>>> designing > > >>>>>>> the storyboard (UI) and interaction. Some of the decisions were > > >>>>>>> going > > >>>>>>> with > > >>>>>>> objective-C (due to internal hate for swift) and going iPhone > > >>>>>>> only > > >>>>>>> as > > >>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>> first > > >>>>>>> iteration target in order to get the UI as iOSy as possible. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> But I have to admit that my experience with iOS or mobile > > >>>>>>> development > > >>>>>>> overall > > >>>>>>> is quite limited, so I see no issues with either joint efforts or > > >>>>>>> developing > > >>>>>>> two apps and seeing which one is more suited for iVirt. :) > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> What about porting of spice client to IOS? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> there are issues even on android with it :) I'd say it would be a lot > > >>>>> of > > >>>>> work > > >>>>> porting it for not too much gain - we have the option of VNC. > > >>>> > > >>>> Cool! I did not think about it :) > > >>>> Is there a VNC project for IOS that can be used? has anyone checked? > > >>> > > >>> Honestly not :) I have only googled it and there are tons of VNC > > >>> clients > > >>> for > > >>> iOS so I hope some of them are usable for us. > > >>> But I would be very surprised if none... > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> And until we don't have the client itself, I don't see too much point > > >>>>> in > > >>>>> porting a console for it. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Ok, good to know. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Greg > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
