On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Sunny Shin <sunny4s....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The relationship between ManageIQ and CloudForms seems the same as the one > between oVirt and RHEVM, right? Indeed. And we (the oVirt team) intend to contribute more and more to the ManageIQ oVirt provider, to make it best in class! Here's a fresh example being worked on - https://github.com/ManageIQ/ovirt/pull/47 Y. > Thank you so much for all your hard work and good information. > > Sunny > > > 2016년 3월 6일 일요일, Yaniv Kaul<yk...@redhat.com>님이 작성한 메시지: > > On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 4:48 AM, Sunny Shin <sunny4s....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> It seems one engine has limitation such as not supporting over thousands >>> or ten thousands of hosts. I heard that openstack supports unlimited(?) >>> hosts with engine clustering similar to active-active ha. So, I thought >>> that if active-active ha is supported, much more hosts are supported with >>> one engine set. >> >> >> As for OpenStack, I'll just advise that you don't believe everything you >> hear. >> >> >>> With current ovirt engine, if we want to deploy thousands of hosts, we >>> may need multiple separate engines with hundreds of hosts each. And each >>> engine has its own admin portal without one combined user interface. Am >>> I right? >>> >> >> Correct, though you can and should use ManageIQ[1] for example to manage >> multiple oVirt engines. We are eagerly working on improving our integration >> with it. >> We are looking both into the next generation of oVirt engine to allow >> higher scale as well as the coming release to improve the scale somewhat. >> Y. >> >> [1] http://manageiq.org/ >> >>> >>> Sunny >>> >>> >>> 2016년 3월 5일 토요일, Yaniv Kaul<yk...@redhat.com>님이 작성한 메시지: >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Sunny Shin <sunny4s....@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yaniv, >>>>> >>>>> Could you a little bit more elaborate what you are working on for >>>>> engine scailability? I thought that active-active ha is the only way for >>>>> that. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Active Active is useful for both HA (where we believe hosted-engine is >>>> a good solution) as well as scalability. If we improve the current >>>> scalability, then we are good there too. >>>> I've given several items below - it'd be difficult to enumerate all of >>>> them - I suggest going through the gerrit commits in the last 2 months or >>>> so and look at some of the work that has taken and is taking place, across >>>> all areas of the product. Few random examples: >>>> https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/36593/ >>>> https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/51235/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Is there anything specifically you are looking for? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Sunny >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2016년 3월 4일 금요일, Yaniv Kaul<yk...@redhat.com>님이 작성한 메시지: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Sunny Shin <sunny4s....@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Yaniv, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there a plan to implement active-active HA in the near future? Is >>>>>>> there any progress on it since the discussion in August 2013? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No, not at the moment. We feel that Self-Hosted Engine (SHE) is a >>>>>> great solution thus far. >>>>>> We are working on improving the performance and scale of the engine, >>>>>> to be able to handle more load, more hosts, more VMs, etc. >>>>>> This is an ongoing work across all components, from VDSM, to engine >>>>>> core, REST API, database calls and more. >>>>>> Y. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sunny >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2016-03-04 17:38 GMT+09:00 Yaniv Kaul <yk...@redhat.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 2:03 AM, Sunny Shin <sunny4s....@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In the new architecture page ( >>>>>>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/architecture/architecture/), >>>>>>>>> overall architecture picture shows that engine supports active-active >>>>>>>>> high >>>>>>>>> availability. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is inaccurate - the engine is not highly available in A/A >>>>>>>> architecture. I'd appreciate if you could file an issue for it so >>>>>>>> we'll fix >>>>>>>> this page. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> However, as per engine HA page ( >>>>>>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/engine/engine-high-availability/), >>>>>>>>> active-active HA is not supported yet and there are several >>>>>>>>> implementation >>>>>>>>> issues. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, could anyone give me a brief explanation about discrepancy >>>>>>>>> between these two pages, and about the plan to implement this feature >>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>> not implemented yet? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I suggest looking at self-hosted engine, which provides non-A/A >>>>>>>> high availability for the engine. >>>>>>>> Y. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sunny >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Devel mailing list >>>>>>>>> Devel@ovirt.org >>>>>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>
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