On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 5:21 PM Yedidyah Bar David <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 11:50 AM Amit Bawer <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:25 AM Yedidyah Bar David <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 10:00 PM Amit Bawer <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 11:41 AM Yedidyah Bar David <[email protected]> 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi all,
> >> >>
> >> >> This is in a sense a continuation of the thread "Why filetransaction
> >> >> needs to encode the content to utf-8?", but I decided that a new
> >> >> thread is better.
> >> >>
> >> >> I started to systematically convert the code to use a unicode
> >> >> sandwich. I admit it was harder than I expected, and made me think
> >> >> somewhat differently about the move to python3, and about how
> >> >> reasonable (or not) it is to develop in the common subset of python2
> >> >> and python3 vs ditching python2 and moving fully to python3. It seems
> >> >> like at least parts of our (integration team) code will still have to
> >> >> run in python2 also in oVirt 4.4, so I guess we'll not have much
> >> >> choice :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Current patches are only for otopi and engine-setup, and are by no
> >> >> means thorough - I didn't check each and every open() call and similar
> >> >> ones. But it's enough for getting engine-setup finish successfully on
> >> >> both python2 and python3 (EL7 and Fedora 29), with some utf-8 inserted
> >> >> in relevant places of the input (for the plugins already handled).
> >> >>
> >> >> I didn't bother trying non-utf-8 encodings. Perhaps I should, but it's
> >> >> not completely clear to me what's the best approach [2].
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > A universal solution when dealing with sys.argv which could contain file 
> >> > paths/names in various languages,
> >> > would be selecting sys.getfilesystemencoding() for the encoding scheme 
> >> > instead of a hard coded 'utf-8' [3].
> >> > We've done something similar in sanlock python-c API for converting 
> >> > file-system paths into bytes, although it's in C,
> >> > the principle of using the file-system default encoding applies there as 
> >> > well [4].
> >>
> >> Thanks for the hint. Looked at this and thought a bit, and I tend to
> >> ignore/postpone until a need arises. We already have "utf-8" hard-coded
> >> in otopi 27 times, not sure it makes sense now to go after each and every
> >> one of them and analyze the more-general function (or expression, or even
> >> more complex) to replace it with. I guess this is only relevant for 
> >> Windows,
> >> and I do not think anyone is going to try to port otopi to Windows soon.
> >>
> >> Searching for relevant keywords in google finds mostly results from around
> >> 2009-2012, which I guess was the time around which most systems converted
> >> their non-utf-8 file collections to utf-8. A somewhat newer example (2016):
> >>
> >> http://beets.io/blog/paths.html
> >>
> >> So I am going to ignore this. If you think that's a bad choice, please
> >> open a bug, and I'll handle it later. Thanks!
> >
> >
> > Default Linux locale encoding is UTF-8, so I don't think its a bad choice.
>
> Thanks, Amit.
>
> Now rebased and triggered an OST run:
>
> https://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/oVirt%20system%20tests/job/ovirt-system-tests_manual/5528/
>
> If it passes, I'll merge both stacks soon. I'll then send a different email,
> to notify developers to update otopi on their machines.

Was a bit hesitant to merge without verifying on fedora, but fc30 is
still not fully building/built, so gave up and verified only on fc30
in dev env.

Rebased patches, going to merge them soon if they pass CI.

>
> Best regards,
>
>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> For now, my top priority is to get otopi+engine-setup+host-deploy work
> >> well enough for:
> >>
> >> 1. Developers that use fedora for everything, or mix fedora and RHEL7/8
> >> (e.g. engine on one, host on another).
> >>
> >> 2. RHV 4.4, with hosts being RHEL8.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> >
> >> > [3] https://stackoverflow.com/a/5113874
> >> > [4] https://pagure.io/sanlock/blob/master/f/python/sanlock.c#_76
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Currently, you must have both otopi and engine updated to get things
> >> >> working. If there is demand, I might spend some time
> >> >> splitting/rebasing/etc to make it possible to update just one of them
> >> >> and only later the other, but not sure it's worth it.
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't mind splitting/squashing if it makes reviews simpler, but I
> >> >> think the patches are ok as-is. These are the bottom patches of each
> >> >> stack:
> >> >>
> >> >> otopi: https://gerrit.ovirt.org/102085
> >> >>
> >> >> engine-setup: https://gerrit.ovirt.org/102934
> >> >>
> >> >> [1] http://python-future.org/unicode_literals.html
> >> >>
> >> >> [2] 
> >> >> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4012571/python-which-encoding-is-used-for-processing-sys-argv
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks and best regards,
> >> >> --
> >> >> Didi
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Didi
>
>
>
> --
> Didi



-- 
Didi
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