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> Am 28.01.2016 um 13:00 schrieb [email protected]:
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>   1. Re:  Information for users of Weuxels Gentoo owncloud-client
>      Repository (Klaas Freitag)
>   2. Re:  The longest SCALE report ever ;-) (interfaSys s?rl)
>   3.  set up environment for developing an app ([email protected])
>   4. Re:  set up environment for developing an app (Stephen Partington)
>   5. Re:  Information for users of Weuxels Gentoo    owncloud-client
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 16:34:27 +0100
> From: Klaas Freitag <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [owncloud-devel] Information for users of Weuxels Gentoo
>    owncloud-client Repository
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> On 26.01.2016 12:29, Norman Rie? wrote:
> Hi Norman,
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>> as i am migrating away from Owncloud i will no longer maintain my Gentoo
>> owncloud-client overlay (https://github.com/Weuxel/portage-owncloud-client).
> 
> I am sorry to hear that. Any reasons you want to discuss?
> 
> regards,
> 
> klaas
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>> 
>> Please use the owncloud-client ebuild in the portage tree.
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> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 17:09:18 +0100
> From: interfaSys s?rl <[email protected]>
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> Subject: Re: [owncloud-devel] The longest SCALE report ever ;-)
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> Thanks for that entertaining report :)
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> Cheers,
> 
> Olivier
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> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 23:11:45 +0100
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> Subject: [owncloud-devel] set up environment for developing an app
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> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 18:01:55 -0700
> From: Stephen Partington <[email protected]>
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> You can get into Vagrant and Virtualbox as a means to create VM's that will
> launch and that you can push content to. I know snappy works well like this
> and there is an owncloud snappy install as well. Lots of options there.
> 
> Mostly it depends on what you want to make, and how deep into the Os it
> will dig. If just high level testing a WAMP/XMPP style temp environment
> would work. VM's just help you keep things REALLY clean and seperated.
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>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 3:11 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Hello,
>> 
>> i'm new at the owncloud project and i want to start of developing an own
>> app. First of all i need an suitable devolping environment. That means with
>> the ability to debug the app (php and javascript) and a IDE with sytax
>> higligthing, code completion and so on.  I'm familiar with the Eclipse
>> Platform. Therefore i made my first steps with Eclipse PDT. Can somebody
>> help me to set up a suitable environmet for developing owncloud apps?
>> Somebody who can give answers to the questions like: What's the best IDE.
>> How to set it up, especially how to connect the IDE and the webserver to
>> debug the app.
>> 
>> thank you :)
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> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 07:55:59 +0100
> From: Norman Rie? <[email protected]>
> To: List for Developers of ownCloud <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [owncloud-devel] Information for users of Weuxels Gentoo
>    owncloud-client Repository
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> Hello Klaas,
> 
> the reasons have been discussed a lot so i do not really want to discuss 
> them, but i can tell you.
> 
> Compared to other services i run, owncloud is high maintenance. Because of 
> constant quality issues and not communicated changes, every update is a risky 
> gamble. Despite the slogan ?Throw it on any webspace and it will work? it 
> requires substantial changes in php and mysql config to run smoothly or at 
> all. Again some of which are newer properly communicated. I do not want to 
> run into an error on the stable release and then find out in the issue 
> tracker, that i have to reconfigure the log format of my database. Owncloud 
> should have told me that before or it should not be needed at all.
> 
> My core feature of owncloud was calendar and contacts which worked reliably 
> for a long time. I can not recall when this started but it was deactivated 
> after every update and at first it was a damn hassle to bring it back on.
> What made me search for alternatives was the broken calendar for android 
> devices after moving to php7 and the announcement that owncloud was php7 
> ready. The devs said it was a sabredav problem and that the readiness was 
> meant for the core. There was a fix on the issue tracker which made it work 
> again. 
> What made me implement the previously searched for alternatives was the fact 
> that after an update of owncloud that same known problem was shipped unfixed 
> again.
> 
> I felt with every issue that was discussed, every time the devs statements 
> moved along the lines of ?Not our problem?, ?This is not part of core (any 
> more), so we don?t care?.
> This personal feeling of cause can and will probably be wrong. But it did its 
> share to my decision that owncloud is not the tool of choice for me any more.
> 
> After my initial mail two people contacted me and asked, what i was migrating 
> to as they want to move away from owncloud themselves. I find that somehow 
> noteworthy.
> 
> Anyway, thank you for your work on the sync client. It came a long way from 
> mirall and csync.
> 
> Regards,
> Norman
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 27.01.2016 um 16:34 schrieb Klaas Freitag <[email protected]>:
>> 
>> On 26.01.2016 12:29, Norman Rie? wrote:
>> Hi Norman,
>> 
>>> as i am migrating away from Owncloud i will no longer maintain my Gentoo
>>> owncloud-client overlay (https://github.com/Weuxel/portage-owncloud-client).
>> 
>> I am sorry to hear that. Any reasons you want to discuss?
>> 
>> regards,
>> 
>> klaas
>> 
>>> 
>>> Please use the owncloud-client ebuild in the portage tree.
>> 
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