Hi,

On 11/30/2017 11:52 AM, Kaspar Schleiser wrote:
Hi Dan,

On 11/29/2017 02:33 PM, Daniel Petry wrote:
1. The current build system isn't suitable to support the front end for
RAPstore that Hendrik developed for his bachelor thesis, which requires
that certain information can be displayed to the users.
I hear about this for the first time. Are there any pointers?
Its not specific to the current version of the interface, but to what I would like to achieve for the RAPstore project. Configure a firmware using a graphical interface by selecting modules and configuring them.

2. The current build system doesn't allow developers to easily include
modules in their applications
USEMODULE += module_name?
In our context, it could be important to know the consequences of this.
On my computer, when I say 'aptitude install PACKAGE' I am informed of the additional dependencies. Here with interdependencies, and modules affecting the global configuration it can be more important than this.

The cbor_ctime pseudomodule, when used with newlib, makes every source files compile with -DGNU_SOURCE=1.
I would not know that when simply adding it to USEMODULE.

built can be affected by files/code outside the module directory
        2.1 API changes as a result of including other modules aren't
immediately visible in that module
        2.2 API changes on other modules as a result of including that module
isn't immediately visible
        2.3 The complete build information for a module isn't localised only in
the module directory
If modules are interdependent, they will affect each other. How can a
different module definition help here?
Regarding 'interdependency', I think about module that behave differently => are compiled differently if another module is included.
The optional dependencies that affect either your code or your API.

Adding this to a definition would help as documentation. It still allow specific requirements, still allows strange architecture for compilation optimization, but at least its said somewhere.

It took me some time to understand that `at86rf231` and `at86rf212b` are pseudomodules and are both implemented by `at86rf2xx` which is compiled differently depending on which one is included. 'git grep at86rf231' says nothing about it.

It would of course require tooling to help writing and maintaining these modules definition. And even more for each information that the build system is not using and enforcing.


Gaëtan

Kaspar
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