On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 3:19 PM Chris Johns <chr...@rtems.org> wrote:
> On 26/11/19 8:05 am, Joel Sherrill wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 2:12 AM Sebastian Huber > > <sebastian.hu...@embedded-brains.de <mailto: > sebastian.hu...@embedded-brains.de>> > > wrote: > > > > On 25/11/2019 08:55, Chris Johns wrote: > > > > > > On 25/11/19 5:28 pm, Sebastian Huber wrote: > > >> > > >> On 24/11/2019 23:25, Chris Johns wrote: > > >>>>> Should there be a note or something about waf needing python > and we > > recommend > > >>>>> python3? Plus waf needs a `python` installed and not just > `python2` or > > >>>>> `python3`? > > >>>> I think this belongs to the Host Computer section. The quick > start uses the > > >>>> RSB, so if you managed to build the tools, you must have a > working Python. > > >>>> The RSB uses Python and the RTEMS Tools use waf. > > >>> The RSB can use python2 or python3 without a python. What about > a note > > to say > > >>> ... "Waf uses python and you need to make this command available > on your > > system". > > >> Now I am a bit confused. I thought every UNIX-like system > provides a > > >> > > >> #!/usr/bin/env python > > >> > > >> which maps to Python 2 or 3? > > >> > > > Apparently on some distros the python executable is not > automatically > > installed > > > with a suitable python2 or python3. I am not aware of the > specifics of > > this but > > > it was raised as an issue that I fixed in the RSB: > > > > > > https://devel.rtems.org/ticket/3537 > > > > I have never seen a system in which > > > > #!/usr/bin/env python2 > > > > or > > > > #!/usr/bin/env python3 > > > > works, but not > > > > #!/usr/bin/env python > > I agree however this is the post from Joel about a class he held ... > > https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2018-October/023150.html > > and I posted the change here ... > > https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2018-October/023296.html > > > How many Python scripts would stop to work in this case? However, the > > availability of a python command is not mandatory according to: > > > > https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/ > > I am aware of this and I support it however Linux distros seems to feel > there > are cases for exceptions, we have this one and there is also pax. > > The pax and this python case are similar, do we say "We are correct, fix > your > host or raise a bug on your distro" or do we attempt to smooth over the > cracks > and attempt to just work? > > In the case of ubuntu, maybe someone with some experience with it can see > what > is needed and update the documentation? > > > I think we should note in the "Host Computer" section that a "python" > > command is mandatory for RTEMS and remove the RSB extra stuff. > > The argument was presented to me that the RSB should just work even in > this case > and so that is what I did. I am fine to remove that support, it is an > average hack. > > > Chris can answer to that. > > Done. > > > But on Centos 7, we have: > > > > $ type python > > python is /usr/bin/python > > $ python --version > > Python 2.7.5 > > $ type python2 > > python2 is /usr/bin/python2 > > $ type python3 > > bash: type: python3: not found > > $ env python > > Python 2.7.5 (default, Aug 7 2019, 00:51:29) > > [GCC 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-39)] on linux2 > > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. > >>>> > > > > and if I activate the SCL for Python 3: > > > > $ scl enable rh-python36 bash > > > > > > [joel@localhost rtems-work]$ type python > > > > > > python is /opt/rh/rh-python36/root/usr/bin/python > > > > > > [joel@localhost rtems-work]$ python --version > > > > > > Python 3.6.3 > > And on ubuntu? The original post was about that distro. > Welcome to Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.15.0-66-generic x86_64) .... $ type python python is /usr/bin/python $ python --version Python 2.7.15+ $ env python Python 2.7.15+ (default, Oct 7 2019, 17:39:04) [GCC 7.4.0] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> $ python2 Python 2.7.15+ (default, Oct 7 2019, 17:39:04) [GCC 7.4.0] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> $ python3 Python 3.6.8 (default, Oct 7 2019, 12:59:55) [GCC 8.3.0] on linux Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> > > Chris >
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