On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 9:37 AM Joel Sherrill <j...@rtems.org> wrote:
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>
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> On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 9:48 AM Vijay Kumar Banerjee <vi...@rtems.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> If no one has any objections, I would like to push the RTEMS patches to 
>> remove libnetworking.
>>
>> The patches are in this repo:
>> https://git.rtems.org/vijay/rtems.git/log/?h=devel-no-libnet
>
>
> I do not object but this is an impactful thing to do and it would
> be my preference to get concurrence from multiple core
> developers.
>
Thanks for reviewing! I'll wait for some more comments from other core
developers before pushing.

Best regards,
Vijay
> --joel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Vijay
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 1, 2021, 14:48 Vijay Kumar Banerjee <vi...@rtems.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 1:24 PM Gedare Bloom <ged...@rtems.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 1:16 PM Vijay Kumar Banerjee <vi...@rtems.org> 
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 12:20 PM Joel Sherrill <j...@rtems.org> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 1:05 PM Gedare Bloom <ged...@rtems.org> wrote:
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 11:28 AM Vijay Kumar Banerjee 
>>> > > >> <vi...@rtems.org> wrote:
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > Hi,
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > I have shifted the testsuites and have checked that all the tests 
>>> > > >> > run successfully with pc-qemu. I have also updated the README.waf 
>>> > > >> > as per the review and have fixed formatting according to PEP8. 
>>> > > >> > Please review the repos and let me know if there's something else 
>>> > > >> > that needs to be improved to make it mergeable.
>>> > > >> > RTEMS: https://git.rtems.org/vijay/rtems.git/log/?h=devel-no-libnet
>>> > > >> > rtems-net-legacy: 
>>> > > >> > https://git.rtems.org/vijay/rtems-net-legacy.git/log/?h=main
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > I have also made a patch for rtems-docs to rename networking to 
>>> > > >> > legacy networking:
>>> > > >> > https://git.rtems.org/vijay/rtems-docs.git/commit/?id=92b53d211b4d9ad795ef8b2ad1ac0deed5a25f9a
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > This looks good. If it can easily be moved to the bottom of the list 
>>> > > > of docs, that would be great.
>>> > > >
>>> > > Great. I'll check it and create a patch for it (Assuming it can be
>>> > > done from the docs and doesn't need anything to be done from the
>>> > > website front end).
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > I haven't added any LICENSE file as I really didn't understand 
>>> > > >> > what we can put in there. I can add the RTEMS LICENSE file from 
>>> > > >> > https://www.rtems.org/license/LICENSE as it was discussed in the 
>>> > > >> > list before. Please let me know what is desirable.
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> I don't think we should have a LICENSE file, instead I think there
>>> > > >> should be a section of the README that discusses the licensing
>>> > > >> situation.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> The code is licensed under a mix of the rtems.org/LICENSE and various
>>> > > >> BSD licenses. That is all that needs to be said, if anything.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > +1 It is what is always has been.
>>> > > Great, I'll add a section in the README file.
>>> > >
>>> > > Regarding the README file in general: Is the current text suitable or
>>> > > should we add some information like this is the separate rtems legacy
>>> > > networking stack etc. ?
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > Add a brief note, and identify where further  guidance is located
>>> > (README.waf, docs.rtems.org) and keep the historical stuff I suppose,
>>> > but provide a segue to it.
>>> >
>>> Thanks, I added it. I'll soon post an announcement to the devel (and
>>> users) about the separate repo, requesting testing from concerned
>>> users.
>>>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Do we need to put out a call for anyone to step up to deal with
>>> > > >> anything in BSPs?
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > To be completely above board and proper, I think so. please post to
>>> > > > both devel@ and users@ that your repo needs testing and that the
>>> > > > legacy stack is soon to be removed from the main rtems.git.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > And make it VERY clear that anyone who plans to test, please
>>> > > > speak up. We can't demand they do it immediately but it would
>>> > > > be helpful to know someone is going to do it.
>>> > > >
>>> > > Sure, I'll post in user and devel.
>>> > >
>>> > > > Which NIC did you test the PC with?
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > > virtio
>>> > >
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> > Best regards,
>>> > > >> > Vijay
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 12:30 PM Joel Sherrill <j...@rtems.org> 
>>> > > >> > wrote:
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 11:49 AM Chris Johns <chr...@rtems.org> 
>>> > > >> > > wrote:
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> On 27/2/21 4:40 am, Vijay Kumar Banerjee wrote:
>>> > > >> > >> > Hi all,
>>> > > >> > >> >
>>> > > >> > >> > Thanks for reviewing
>>> > > >> > >> >
>>> > > >> > >> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 10:13 AM Joel Sherrill 
>>> > > >> > >> > <j...@rtems.org> wrote:
>>> > > >> > >> >>
>>> > > >> > >> >> Some odd questions that are mostly about making this a 
>>> > > >> > >> >> self-contained entity with no loose ends.
>>> > > >> > >> >>
>>> > > >> > >> >> + Can the network demos be merged also?
>>> > > >> > >> >>
>>> > > >> > >> > Are we talking about testsuites tests that use legacy 
>>> > > >> > >> > networking? If
>>> > > >> > >> > so, then I have already shifted the networking01.exe and will 
>>> > > >> > >> > shift
>>> > > >> > >> > other tests using the same approach.
>>> > > >> > >> >
>>> > > >> > >> >> + rtems-docs has the Network Users Guide which is legacy 
>>> > > >> > >> >> only. As a minimum, it needs to be renamed to have Legacy in 
>>> > > >> > >> >> the title. Better would be to convert it to 
>>> > > >> > >> >> markdown/asciidoc and just toss it in the legacy repo.
>>> > > >> > >> >>
>>> > > >> > >> > This is a good point! I'll probably just keep it as a README 
>>> > > >> > >> > in the
>>> > > >> > >> > net-legacy repo.
>>> > > >> > >> >
>>> > > >> > >> >> + Gaisler needs a poke about the grlib NIC drivers. And 
>>> > > >> > >> >> Daniel expects it. File a ticket that it is time for them to 
>>> > > >> > >> >> support libbsd and assign it to him. :)
>>> > > >> > >> >>
>>> > > >> > >> >> I'm ok with Chris' proposal to give notice  Grep'ing for 
>>> > > >> > >> >> NETWORK_DRIVER_NAME did turn up more files than I expected. 
>>> > > >> > >> >> Perhaps that is simply a list of driver names and attach 
>>> > > >> > >> >> functions for a readme in the repo. That's all that should 
>>> > > >> > >> >> have been in the bsp.h files.
>>> > > >> > >> >>
>>> > > >> > >> > Yes, these are mostly bsp.h files. I'll file a ticket and 
>>> > > >> > >> > post to
>>> > > >> > >> > users and devel about it. There are also quite a few with
>>> > > >> > >> > RTEMS_NETWORKING defined.
>>> > > >> > >> >
>>> > > >> > >> >> This is awesome work and much appreciated.
>>> > > >> > >> >>
>>> > > >> > >> > Thank you. :)
>>> > > >> > >> >
>>> > > >> > >> >> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 12:12 AM Gedare Bloom 
>>> > > >> > >> >> <ged...@rtems.org> wrote:
>>> > > >> > >> >>>
>>> > > >> > >> >>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 6:06 PM Chris Johns 
>>> > > >> > >> >>> <chr...@rtems.org> wrote:
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> On 26/2/21 4:49 am, Vijay Kumar Banerjee wrote:
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> The stand-alone repository is very close to completion 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> now and I could
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> use the networking01 test with the standalone repo and it 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> successfully
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> runs on pc-qemu.
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> Fantastic news.
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> The following are the links to the branches with the
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> final version of the commits and I would really 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> appreciate a review
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> and suggestions on what else needs to be done (I'm not 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> sending patches
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> as they're big and would hit the devel limit):
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> I am fine reviewing the changes in the repos.
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> RTEMS: 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> https://git.rtems.org/vijay/rtems.git/log/?h=devel-no-libnet
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> Looks good. The only observation is a bisect will 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> probability break as the
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> nfsclient depends on rpc but I am OK with now things are.
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> I checked rtems_waf and I think it is OK dealing with no 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> networking defined in
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> the RTEMS opts header.
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> > Great!
>>> > > >> > >> >
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> rtems-net-legacy: 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> https://git.rtems.org/vijay/rtems-net-legacy.git/log/?h=main
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> Would calling lnetwork.py netlegacy.py be a better match 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> for that name? Closer
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> to the repo naming.
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> > Sure, I'll rename it and force push.
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> Thanks
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> >
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> Do the new python files need to pep8 formatted? :)
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> [ 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> https://gitlab.com/ita1024/waf/-/tree/master/playground/pep8
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>  ]
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> > pep8 does work for me when used manually but with waf module 
>>> > > >> > >> > I'm
>>> > > >> > >> > getting the following error:
>>> > > >> > >> >
>>> > > >> > >> > ```
>>> > > >> > >> >   File 
>>> > > >> > >> > "/home/vijay/.local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/pep8.py", line
>>> > > >> > >> > 253, in maximum_line_length
>>> > > >> > >> >     if length > options.max_line_length:
>>> > > >> > >> > AttributeError: 'Values' object has no attribute 
>>> > > >> > >> > 'max_line_length'
>>> > > >> > >> > ```
>>> > > >> > >> > This is strange because it looks like an error in the pep8 
>>> > > >> > >> > module itself.
>>> > > >> > >> >
>>> > > >> > >> > I have tried different versions of pep8 and it looks like 
>>> > > >> > >> > each version
>>> > > >> > >> > has a different error. I think this needs some work from the 
>>> > > >> > >> > waf side
>>> > > >> > >> > to get it working with the new pycodestyle instead of the 
>>> > > >> > >> > pep8 module.
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> Running manually is fine.
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> In bsp_drivers.py is there a waf node way to find the 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> sources rather than
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> python os walk?
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> [ 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> https://waf.io/apidocs/Node.html#waflib.Node.Node.ant_glob 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> ]
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> > I gave it a few shots but it didn't quite work out well for 
>>> > > >> > >> > me.  I do
>>> > > >> > >> > get the generator from it but for some reason, it's not 
>>> > > >> > >> > building. We
>>> > > >> > >> > would also need the list of headers for the install, for 
>>> > > >> > >> > which I think
>>> > > >> > >> > os.walk might be needed.
>>> > > >> > >> >
>>> > > >> > >> > Is this a blocker to merging? If so, then I can put more time 
>>> > > >> > >> > into it
>>> > > >> > >> > and try to get it working. If you want it as an optimization, 
>>> > > >> > >> > maybe we
>>> > > >> > >> > could merge it and file a ticket? I can take more time and 
>>> > > >> > >> > fix it
>>> > > >> > >> > later.
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> Thanks for looking, the os.walk is fine.
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> Should the README reference rtems_waf and all the 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> configure options it supports?
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> > This is a good point, The README needs some update for sure. 
>>> > > >> > >> > I'll
>>> > > >> > >> > follow the README.waf from other repos and follow the same 
>>> > > >> > >> > pattern.
>>> > > >> > >> >
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> Do we need a LICENSE file?
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> > Do we?
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> I think it helps but I am not sure what it would contain. Joel?
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > It would be hard to have a completely accurate one if it has to 
>>> > > >> > > account for every BSD file with unique copyright holders a d two 
>>> > > >> > > vs three paragraph license
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > Perhaps descriptive contents that says it contains code under 
>>> > > >> > > multiple permissive licenses. See the specific files for details.
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > It's good to have one but not worth the effort to do more than 
>>> > > >> > > that.
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> There are at least two things that need to be done:
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> 1. Shift the tests like mghttpd01 that use the 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> libnetworking stack, to
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> the standalone repo like networking01
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> OK
>>> > > >> > >> > I'll do it along with the README and send it for review.
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> Thanks
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> 2. There are still codes that use the #ifdef 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> RTEMS_NETWORKING. What do
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> we want to do about those?
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> How many BSPs/places/areas are we talking about?
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> Would it be practical to add a cgit link to a ticket and 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> then post an email to
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> user and devel stating those interested in BSPs x,y,z to 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> review the ticket? We
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> then wait a week and after that the remaining defines are 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> removed.
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> >
>>> > > >> > >> > grep shows this:
>>> > > >> > >> > ```
>>> > > >> > >> > cpukit/libfs/src/ftpfs/tftpDriver.c:#ifdef RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > cpukit/libfs/src/ftpfs/tftpDriver.c:#ifdef RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > cpukit/libfs/src/ftpfs/tftpDriver.c:#ifdef RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > cpukit/libfs/src/ftpfs/tftpDriver.c:#ifdef RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > cpukit/telnetd/telnetd.c:#ifdef RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > cpukit/telnetd/telnetd.c:#ifdef RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > cpukit/ftpd/ftpd.c:#ifndef RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > cpukit/libtest/testbeginend.c:#if RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > cpukit/libtest/testbeginend.c:    " RTEMS_NETWORKING"
>>> > > >> > >> > cpukit/include/rtems/monitor.h:#if defined(RTEMS_NETWORKING)
>>> > > >> > >> > cpukit/include/rtems/shellconfig.h:#if RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > cpukit/include/rtems/shellconfig.h:    #if RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > spec/build/testsuites/samples/pppd.yml:  - RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > spec/build/testsuites/samples/loopback.yml:- RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > spec/build/testsuites/libtests/telnetd01.yml:- 
>>> > > >> > >> > RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > spec/build/testsuites/libtests/mghttpd01.yml:  - 
>>> > > >> > >> > RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > spec/build/testsuites/libtests/syscall01.yml:- 
>>> > > >> > >> > RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > spec/build/testsuites/libtests/networking01.yml:- 
>>> > > >> > >> > RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > spec/build/testsuites/libtests/ftp01.yml:- RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > spec/build/bsps/powerpc/motorola_powerpc/objqemunet.yml:  - 
>>> > > >> > >> > RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > spec/build/bsps/objnetnosmp.yml:  - RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > spec/build/bsps/riscv/griscv/objnetnosmp.yml:  - 
>>> > > >> > >> > RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > testsuites/libtests/record01/init.c:#ifdef RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > testsuites/libtests/record01/init.c:#ifdef RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > testsuites/libtests/record01/init.c:#ifdef RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > testsuites/libtests/record01/init.c:#ifdef RTEMS_NETWORKING
>>> > > >> > >> > bsps/powerpc/beatnik/include/bsp.h:#if 
>>> > > >> > >> > defined(RTEMS_NETWORKING)
>>> > > >> > >> > bsps/lm32/milkymist/include/bsp.h:#if 
>>> > > >> > >> > defined(RTEMS_NETWORKING)
>>> > > >> > >> > bsps/lm32/lm32_evr/include/bsp.h:#if defined(RTEMS_NETWORKING)
>>> > > >> > >> >
>>> > > >> > >> > ```
>>> > > >> > >> > I can already see a small issue from my side. The 
>>> > > >> > >> > networking01.yml is
>>> > > >> > >> > there. That will go away, along with some other testsuites 
>>> > > >> > >> > yml that
>>> > > >> > >> > I'll shift now. Do we need ticket for the rest?
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> A single ticket for this task is fine.
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > I would say we always build with networking in in the future. 
>>> > > >> > > The standard headers are there always.
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > > >> > > Perhaps ones in telnetd and similar can go away if that decision 
>>> > > >> > > is made versus saying it disables common network services.
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> >
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> Do we have a ticket for this task?
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> >>> https://devel.rtems.org/ticket/3850
>>> > > >> > >> >>>
>>> > > >> > >> > Thanks.
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> Thanks.
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> Chris
>>> > > >> > >>
>>> > > >> > >> >
>>> > > >> > >> >>> I'll let Vijay answer the rest.
>>> > > >> > >> >>>
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> Apart from these two points above, do the commits and the 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> standalone
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> repo look OK (close to mergeable)?
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> For me this is very close and a welcomed change for RTEMS 
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> 6. Really nice work.
>>> > > >> > >> >>>>
>>> > > >> > >> > Thank you!
>>> > > >> > >> >
>>> > > >> > >> > Best regards,
>>> > > >> > >> > Vijay
>>> > > >> > >> >
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> Thanks
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> Chris
>>> > > >> > >> >>>> _______________________________________________
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