Hi,

Am 09.03.2015 um 07:25 schrieb Sebastian Lau:
>
> Well, I'll probably start one for a side project (being a student is
> busy... Not that working is any better). But wouldn't GRUB work as a
> bootloader as well or is it that sel4 only boots on uboot?
>
I was going to say that GRUB is x86 only, however googling for "grub
bootloader ARM" reveals:

https://wiki.linaro.org/LEG/Engineering/Kernel/GRUB

so apparently GRUB now also exists for ARM architectures. (Not sure
about the usefulness of the mentioned UEFI support in an ARM environment
though..). I'd still expect U-boot to be less trouble. Also, U-boot is
already being used to  boot seL4 on other ARM platforms (e.g. the
SabreLite), so it is proven to work.

>
> On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 11:23 Tom Mitchell <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 4:00 AM, Wolfgang Keller
>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 6:18 AM, Sebastian Lau
>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>         wrote:
>         > Would a port of seL4 to the raspberry pi 2 be welcome
>         because I'm interested
>         > in buying a raspberry pi 2 and building sel4 for it?
>
>         I have not much knowledge about seL4, but the boot process of
>         the RPi
>         (all versions) is rather special:
>
>
>     Thanks for the R-Pi summary!
>
>     Some layers may be difficult to prove but that
>     should not make it impossible to do good work.
>
>     Something along the lines... 
>         If Given: uboot is trusted.
>         If Given: USB IO is trusted to devices ...UVW, XYZ.
>

Obviously, it will not be possible to establish a chain of trust using
uboot and USB. If a proof of correctness is the goal, don't even dream
of doing it with the Raspberry Pi.


>
>     The value of accepting some "Givens" is that other levels of
>     work can move forward on a very inexpensive platform.
>
>     As a student platform the R-Pi is interesting because 
>     the student has a worthy (sufficiently interesting) platform to 
>     abuse for less than the price of a modern text book.   Pop out the
>     memory
>     card reload it and start over.   The students laptop has not crashed.
>
Yes, exactly: it is cheap and a its a worthy target.

Robert

-- 
Robert Kaiser

Computer Engineering
RheinMain University of Applied Sciences

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