In my efforts to learn enough to possibly start developing folding for nedit, 
I'm trying to run some simple Motif tutorials by Marshall Brain.  The first 
one is at:

http://www-h.eng.cam.ac.uk/help/tpl/graphics/Motif/mt2

I've done some googling, I have consulted what I thought was my best C 
reference ("C: A Reference Manual" by Harbison and Steele), but I'm just 
thoroughly discombombulated.  Although this is probably not exactly the right 
mailing list for this (maybe I should try a C language list), I thought I'd 
try here anyway.

I've described a lot of problems / questions here--an approach to address them 
one at a time would be peachy. ;-)

(I'm trying to run these on lesstif because lesstif was partially installed on 
my Mandriva2006 system.  I say partially because the devel part was not 
installed, and I've since installed it.  I recognize that this may not be the 
best *tif for NEdit, but I'd like to get started with these simple tutorials 
which I believe should work with lesstif even though written for Motif.  By 
the time I get ready to compile NEdit, I'd hope to have a different system 
installed (possibly Kubuntu with a bunch of development stuff loaded from 
Debian, if necessary).)

Also note that the following are installed (iirc, the first three were 
installed, the 4th I installed recently--I *might* have also installed the 
libxorg-x11-devel recently):
   * libxorg-x11-6.9-1.cvs20050915.2mdk
   * libxorg-x11-devel-6.9-1.cvs20050915.2mdk
   * lesstif-0.93.94-4mdk
   * lesstif-devel-0.93.94-1mdk

The command line recommended (in mt1):

cc -o first first.c -lXm -lXt -lX11

is not working.

Early on, I had some errors related to the program not finding the include 
files:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] lesstif-0.95.0]$ cd /rhk/X
[EMAIL PROTECTED] X]$ ls
motif_tut1.c
[EMAIL PROTECTED] X]$ cc -o first motif_tut1.c -lXm -lXt -lX11
motif_tut1.c:1:19: error: Xm/Xm.h: No such file or directory
motif_tut1.c:2:22: error: Xm/Label.h: No such file or directory

So I started running the program from the directory "above" those include 
files, like after:  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] X]$ cd /usr/X11R6/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] include]$ cd Xm

but that didn't help.

Finally I added a -I directive to the command line: 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] Xm]# cc -o first /rhk/X/motif_tut1.c -lXm -lXt -lX11 
-I /usr/X11R6/include/
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXm
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

That seemed to solve the include file problem, because next I started getting 
errors related to the parts of the command like -lXm (see above).

Digression: General questions on what's happened so far:

   * Should I have to include a -I directive or is there something I'm missing 
from my setup?  

   * Somewhere I read about the "standard locations" for include files (found 
by the include <file> syntax vs. the include "file" syntax).  What are those 
standard file locations (on a Linux (Mandriva2006) system)?  

   * Can I specify those standard locations with an environment variable or 
similar?  (I saw that there was such a variable for a MS Dos-based system.)

   * What is the right thing to do?

Now back to the -lXm problem--repeating the previous trial: 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] Xm]# cc -o first /rhk/X/motif_tut1.c -lXm -lXt -lX11 
-I /usr/X11R6/include/
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXm
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

At this point, I tried things like running the program from one level above 
where I was (oh, I also started running the command as root, because I was 
running from /usr/X11R6/Xm, but I'm fairly certain I shouldn't have to 
normally run as root--because I wasn't root, I got:)

/usr/bin/ld: cannot open output file first: Permission denied
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

Anyway, running from the /usr/X11R6 or the /usr/X11R6/Xm directories didn't 
help.

I do see directories Xm and X11 in /usr/X11R6.

I've tried things like replacing the -lXm with the complete path to Xm, like 
-l/usr/X11R6/Xm.

Also, although I see libXt:   

/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6

I don't see a directory Xt.

(Although this is a problem, I don't think it's the only problem or the 
problem blocking progress, as even though Xm and X11 seem to be installed, I 
can't get the -lXm or -lX11 "commands" to work.)

What do I have to do to get -lXm and -lX11 to work?  Must I run from a 
specific location, or set an environment variable, or what?

What do I have to install to get Xt?  (I do see the man pages and HTML pages 
for Xt installed, I'm almost thinking there is something missing from the 
Mandriva2006 install.)

I've done some googling, I have consulted what I thought was my best C 
reference ("C: A Reference Manual" by Harbison and Steele), but I'm just 
thoroughly discombombulated.

Although I've described a lot of problems / questions here, an approach to 
address them one at a time would be peachy. ;-)

Thanks,
Randy Kramer
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