Nah, it's not a bother.  We all have to learn by asking.  I never  
begrudge questions.
On Dec 11, 2005, at 11:27 PM, louie wrote:

> Very good I will go there. Thanks for all of your help. If I get to  
> be a
> pest just tell me to back off.
> Louie
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Travis Siegel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Discussions on developing for Mac OS X by the blind"
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> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 8:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Apple script
>
>
>
>> You can get the pdf for the apple script language at http://
>> developer.apple.com/documentation/AppleScript/Conceptual/
>> AppleScriptLangGuide/AppleScriptLanguageGuide.pdf
>> There's other related documentation on the page the pdf is linked
>> from, so if you're interested, take a look there too.  That one will
>> give you everything you need to get started though, it's 415 pages,
>> and all of it is packed with terms, samples, tables, and actual
>> useful stuff too. :)
>> On Dec 11, 2005, at 10:11 PM, louie wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Travis ,
>>> I have a lot of reading to do.. Where did you find the PDF document?
>>> Louie
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Travis Siegel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "Discussions on developing for Mac OS X by the blind"
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 6:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Apple script
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> This one is done for us by apple already.
>>>> Each of the date fields already has a corresponding string we can
>>>> get.
>>>> month string, gives the month (jan, feb, mar, ...) Day string gives
>>>> us 1,2,3,... (day of month) year string gives us the year, and
>>>> weekday string gives us the day of the week (monday, tuesday, ...)
>>>> They all work the same as shown below with the time field.
>>>> They're listed on page 62 in the adobe version of the apple  
>>>> scripting
>>>> manual (I don't know where they are in the html version)
>>>> hth.
>>>> On Dec 11, 2005, at 8:57 PM, louie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Travis  this be cool. What I would like to do is parse ever field
>>>>> out of the
>>>>> string. The would be a hour, minute, second, am pm, year, month  
>>>>> and
>>>>> so on.
>>>>> How does one find the structure of date?
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Louie
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Travis Siegel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "Discussions on developing for Mac OS X by the blind"
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 4:09 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple script
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, I noticed that too.  It has a lot to do with what datatype
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> data is.  Apparently strings are interpreted letter by letter,
>>>>>> whereas other data types such as date are interpreted as  
>>>>>> uunits for
>>>>>> each portion of the date.  Here's something that does what you
>>>>>> want,
>>>>>> though it doesn't use terminal to do so.  You can of course
>>>>>> still use
>>>>>> terminal in your script, as the results will be the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** begin script**
>>>>>> set thedate to (current date) as date
>>>>>> set time1 to time string of thedate
>>>>>> say "It is "
>>>>>> say time1
>>>>>> **End script**
>>>>>> This doesn't use the item usage described before, but with the  
>>>>>> date
>>>>>> type, it does work as expected.  I have no idea why strings are
>>>>>> treated as letters instead of words.  You could of coourse use  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> repeat command to get each word individually using space as the
>>>>>> matching char for separation.  It seems to me there should be
>>>>>> another
>>>>>> method for doing this.  I'll see if I can find it. I'm only a
>>>>>> beginner with apple scripting, so I know there's things I have
>>>>>> overlooked or not learned.
>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2005, at 2:37 PM, louie wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Travis Thanks for the help. It did not work like you said.
>>>>>>> set dat to current date as string
>>>>>>> set d to get item 1 of dat
>>>>>>> say d
>>>>>>> What this code produced was the first letter of the string or
>>>>>>> should I say
>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Louie
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>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Travis Siegel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: "Discussions on developing for Mac OS X by the blind"
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 11:11 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple script
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To get any part of a string (Apple calls them lists) you use  
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> "Item" keyword.
>>>>>>>> I.E. item 4 of D in your example would include the year.
>>>>>>>> Get Item 4 of D would result in D containing 2005.
>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2005, at 8:25 PM, louie wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> I am trying to figure out how to parse a string.
>>>>>>>>> the string is created with the below line of code.
>>>>>>>>> set d to current date as string
>>>>>>>>> This produces the string
>>>>>>>>> Thursday, December 8, 2005 5:15:11 PM
>>>>>>>>> What I would like to do is get the month, name of day, day of
>>>>>>>>> month
>>>>>>>>> and year.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>>>>>>> Louie
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