Simon
Sorry -- was rushing out and couldn't think of the name. Yahoo's Common
Tag is what I was talking about:
http://www.ysearchblog.com/2009/06/11/new-common-tag-format/
Simon Gibbs wrote:
I'm not sure what moves you're refering to. If there was some specific
news you read then send me a link and I'll go through it.
Yahoo did add Search Monkey, which lets you tailor search result
rendering. You may have heard of this already.
The effect on tags is that you have an incentive ( up to +15% click
through) to make up your own vocabularies and use search monkey to
display that data in the results. Standard vocab works (obviously) but
is less rich. The prettiest looking apps seem to have three or four
deep links, which you'd expect come from custom vocab.
e.g. MySpace did exactly this and created some info bars you can get here:
http://gallery.search.yahoo.com/search?p=myspace
and then there is http://cantorva.com/blog/about/generic-event-info/
which uses standard vocab and is entirely more functional.
Anyway, speak to you tomorrow.
Simon
CountCulture wrote:
Simon
Looks interesting. Think I get it (though need to make sure I
understand how it converts to XHTML, so any pointers might be a
shortcut for me -- has Yahoo's most recent moves re tags changed
this?). Will have a proper look tomorrow, and come back to you with
(inevitable) questions.
Thanks for your help. Really appreciate it,
C
Simon Gibbs wrote:
Certainly
The best expression is "vocabulary". RDF Schema are reasonably
practical and do exist, but if you use the vague term "vocabulary"
then it will also set expectations that you want to keep things simple.
Taking a quick look at http://theyworkforyoulocal.com/councils/73
its pretty clear that you'd use FOAF. Its a great match for the data
you have on there. Overlay terms from the hCard microformat to
ensure Google renders a Rich Snippet as well.
FOAF has a spec, a schema and an "ontology" (not a term to worry
about) over here:
http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/
I'm motivated to help because I want to get work out in public to
point people to, so feel free to pick my brain more. If you like I
could dig a bit deeper and recommend the actual XHTML code to use,
how do you want to do this?
Simon
CountCulture wrote:
Simon
I'm the dev behind TheyWorkForYouLocal.com (which has just gone
online as an early-stage/proof-of-concept project), and fairly high
up on my todo list is making sure the HTML is structured via
microformats or RDFa (there's already XML/json access to all data).
I've used microformats before, so am fairly comfortable with that,
but have been thinking about using RDFa for this project -- partly
as a learning experience, and partly because (based on what little
I know about RDFa) I'm thinking it might make more sense as only a
fraction of the data falls into microformat-type, er, formats of
the data and partly because I'm thinking that public data like this
may already have some sort of RDFa schema (if that's the right
expression0.
If you can point me in the right direction for RDFa stuff, that'd
be great.
Cheers
C
Simon Gibbs wrote:
Hi Guys
I have it on good authority that joining the list, and immediately
starting a new thread is a good way to volunteer. I think some people
will recognise me anyway from ORG-discuss and the London Hack Space*, so
I'll skip introductions as well, just to make sure I break enough rules
of netiquette ;-)
So anyway... this week Tim Berners-Lee published some design notes
regarding his discussions with US and UK governments about putting data
on-line. They essentially say "Raw Data Now!" and "Linked Data!!". The
long version is here:
http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/GovData.html
I've been learning, tinkering with and occasionally advocating Linked
Data, SPARQL, RDFa etc for a while and have been using it in anger too
with boring work projects and wrt Search Monkey.
Should you be called upon to assist Government folk with this kind of
thing and find you need someone to do the actual work then count me in.
I should be at the The Hub for the next hack evening if you want to quiz
me in person.
thanks
Simon Gibbs
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