Hi,

On 19 May 2010 15:19, Andrew Regan <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Seb,
>
> Think of this proposal as a political crowdsourcing *platform*. We know that 
> the White House and the Conservatives have already used GM to capture ideas, 
> comments, ratings, etc. and passed on the results to policymakers, giving 
> both GM and the crowdsourcing idea a lot of publicity.
>
> Now that GM has its own API, it's going to be a lot easier to integrate. 
> Therefore by hooking it up to my existing Poblish, which taps into an archive 
> - or rather a live channel - of political content from bloggers, journalists, 
> Wiki contributors, etc., and already has an API for political content, 
> there's the potential for an open crowdsourcing system that is long-lasting, 
> rather than dedicated to 'What should Obama do now' or 'What should be in our 
> 2010 Manifesto'. Furthermore, the results will be available for the entire 
> political data community, rather than just White House or Conservative wonks.
>
> As for what *kind of thing* would be crowdsourced, well, there's a task for 
> administrators to frame some discussions, but essentially I think this can be 
> open. If a particular organisation would like to frame a debate themselves 
> and be seen to be doing this in full public view, that can happen. It might 
> also be that a single blog post spawns something: rather than concentrating 
> that debate in the original blog's own comment-box, hosting on this new 
> platform would open it up to all, it would allow the debate to be connected 
> with other debates from different sites, and it would allow any user or 
> developer to follow it, either in their RSS reader, or via the API.
>
> I'm happy to get this going single-handedly, but it's much more likely to 
> succeed if I can get other people to "buy-in" to the vision, offer their 
> advice and experience, etc.

I still don't understand what you're trying to do, I'm afraid.  Are
there other sites using GM in this way that you can show?

Thanks

Seb

>> Hi,
>>
>> Sounds interesting.  I don't quite understand exactly what you're
>> proposing WRT crowdsourcing + google moderator, though.  Could you
>> give me a concrete example of the kind of thing you might crowdsource,
>> and how?
>>
>> Re. collaboration with mySociety: I don't work for mySociety so can't
>> speak for them, but I do know that mySociety time is at a high premium
>> at the moment; if you wanted more formal support / collaboration the
>> best thing to do is wait until the next call for proposals.
>>
>> On the other hand if you went ahead and implemented this and could
>> show its use then I am sure various people on this list would support
>> it through data linkage and the rest, and possibly more.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Seb
>>
>> On 18 May 2010 17:48, Andrew Regan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I'm proposing a political crowdsourcing system - powered by the new
>>> Google Moderator API (http://code.google.com/apis/moderator/) - that
>>> has the following (possibly unique) aims and features:
>>>
>>> * To raise user expectations massively, in comparison to the "speak
>>> your mind", "vote in our leadership poll", and blog comment-box
>>> interaction models.
>>> * Following directly from this: raise policymakers' expectations about
>>> the *quality* and *usability* of crowdsourced content.
>>> * All discussions can/should be seeded with existing political
>>> content, rather than created out of a clear blue sky.
>>> * All discussions to be integrated with, and matched against an
>>> existing political knowledge base: the content from 2000+ top blogs,
>>> feeds, and Wikis, from 2002 to date.
>>> * The results of all discussions to feed back into the knowledge base.
>>> * To be integrated with an existing, long-lasted, non-partisan system,
>>> so users don't feel their contributions may be wasted or abused.
>>> * Wherever possible, the results of all discussions should be freely,
>>> publicly available, and/or queriable, so they can be used by other
>>> tools.
>>>
>>> In short, the aims are to establish the crowdsourcing model, create a
>>> really usable technical solution, feed the results back to the
>>> political data/tech community, and improve policymaking: using what we
>>> already know to produce fewer bad policies, and to make the process
>>> more efficient.
>>>
>>> Is this something MySociety might like to get involved with?
>>>
>>> I'm proposing to implement this system as part of my existing Poblish
>>> system, as I think we're in a great position to deliver all of the
>>> above, and I'm hoping that if some of these goals inspire you guys,
>>> you might be interested in suggesting, advising - here or elsewhere -
>>> or perhaps even deciding to become more closely involved with the
>>> work.
>>>
>>> I guess the main challenges are:
>>>
>>> * Usability (for users) and interoperability (for developers).
>>> * Promotion and community development.
>>> * Newness of the Google Moderator API, and the need for users to have
>>> Google accounts.
>>>
>>> Background reading / what this is all about:
>>>
>>> * 
>>> http://blog.localdemocracy.org.uk/2010/01/13/poblish-when-crowdsourcing-new-policies-dont-waste-existing-content/
>>> * 
>>> http://blog.localdemocracy.org.uk/2010/01/26/poblish-better-blogging-and-better-technology-to-help-crowdsource-new-policies/
>>> * http://theconnectedrepublic.org/posts/467 (and comment)
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew Regan
>>> [email protected] / +44 7906 123390
>>> http://www.poblish.org/
>>>
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