On 27/07/2010 20:53, Francis Davey wrote:
On 27 July 2010 17:11, Francis Irving<[email protected]>  wrote:

One of the cultural things I like about the community around mySociety
is our susceptibility to facts. It's key to our non-partisanship.
More fundamentally though, it's a built in geek trait.

I think this is coupled with habit again. As a programmer one is
habituated to dealing with a device (a computer) which has an
objective reality that is relatively inflexible and that is not
susceptible to persuasion, flannel or otherwise able to behave other
than its internal logic demands.

I'd agree that it's almost certainly true that working with computers (or any other kind of discipline that requires manipulation of objective devices - engineering is another example) requires the ability to take an objective approach to them. But I think that characterising a preference for facts as a "geek trait" is falling into exactly the trap of making subjective judgements on the basis of prejudice :-) I've worked with plenty of geeks, and outside their ability to write programmed they can be as bloody-mindedly dogmatic as anyone else. In fact, they're often more so, because they tend to approach Real Life with the utterly false belief that it is as easily debugged and disassembled as a few lines of code.

When I was teaching children mathematics they were often sceptical of
some of my conclusions (however well explained) but a quick appeal to
a calculator resolved their doubts instantly. Its a classic amongst
maths teachers, but 0.2*0.2=0.04 is a result many children do not
believe (they are already convinced its 0.4, on the basis that
0.5*0.5=0.25 and extrapolating from there), it helps to be able to
show that the *calculator* shows otherwise 8-).

I think that what that demonstrates, more than anything else, is that intuition is very fallible. But it's easy to go to the opposite end of the scale and dismiss intuition on the basis that it is fallible. There have been interesting studies done in the military arena, where it has been shown that giving too much information to soldiers and commanders in the battlefield reduces, rather than enhances, their effectiveness. Fighter pilots who "fly by the seat of their pants" tend to fly better, and be more effective in combat, than those who studiously take note of every piece of instrumentation.

I think that what that demonstrates is that facts and information alone aren't enough - it's the ability to process them that matters. Uninformed intuition is (often) practically useless, but informed and trained intuition is more likely to get to the truth more often, and more quickly, than trying to derive it from first principles through a purely logical sequence.

Mark

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